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The Lawfare Podcast

Sophia Yan on the China Protests

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4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 1 December 2022

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Protests have broken out in China over the zero-Covid policy, over lockdowns, and even over the rule of newly appointed third-term leader Xi Jinping. The government has begun a crackdown, there have been arrests, there have been intimidating interrogations, there have been street closures, and there has been a lot of internet content removed. 

To go over it all and see what we can make of it, Lawfare editor-in-chief Benjamin Wittes sat down with Sophia Yan, who just left China where she has been The Telegraph’s correspondent for a number of years. They talked about whether these protests might have legs, about what capacity the government has to shut them down, and about whether this could be the beginning of something.

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It's definitely embarrassing for these protests to go on for a long.

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Just the fact that they happened is completely, I mean, this is

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