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Hi. On today's episode, I spoke with Sophia Bush. You might know her from the hit

coming of age series One Tree Hill, or from her tireless work as an activist, or from her

podcast, Work in Progress. But I especially wanted to talk to Sophia because I admire how she's publicly

claim the agency to change her mind, whether it's about love or work, and to ultimately

set an example for all of us of what it looks like to live in your truth. Anyway, I hope you

find something in our chat to connect to, And thanks for joining us on reclaiming.

Hi, Sophia. Hi. Welcome to reclaiming. I am so excited to have you here and to just get a chance

to connect today. I was thinking about, you know, that you,

like, you just, I love so much of what you have to say and what you put out into the world. And

aside from being an actor and an activist, you have this incredibly successful podcast,

which is a great name of work in progress that I love, which is kind of, I feel, self-defining

for me, certainly.

And I read this essay that you wrote in glamour about a year ago.

And there was this incredible quote that the minute I read it, I was like, oh, I can go deep,

like dive deep with her and get real from the gecko. And it was, I will it. I was like, oh, I can go deep, like dive deep with her and get real from the gecko.

And it was, I will not carry anyone's projected shame. Fuck yes. Yeah. I mean, that is something I work on

daily, diligently. Yeah. Was that in response to feeling you had been carrying projected shame and you now were,

you know, sort of issuing that or was it you felt like people were trying to project

their shame onto you and you said, no fucking way, no thank you.

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