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Ongoing History of New Music

Sonic Coincidences in Alt-Rock Part 1

Ongoing History of New Music

Curiouscast

Music History, History, Music, Music Interviews, Music Commentary

4.8604 Ratings

🗓️ 22 March 2023

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Let me ask you this...how many times have you heard a song and said "Hey that song sounds just like something I heard last month. That guitar riff is really familiar....don't they realize those chords were used in a song years ago?!?!?!" This sort of thing happens all the time...in fact it happens more than most people realize. Sometimes quiet deals are worked out behind the scenes and the public never knows, other times things get ugly.... These are true stories of plagiarism and unfortunate sonic coincidences in the world of Alt-Rock...part 1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:03.6

All the notes are related to each other mathematically. The connections between the notes are a set series of ratios, or as music theorists say, intervals of a semitone.

1:10.0

Playing notes in certain combinations or patterns reveal

1:12.9

things like chords and key and melody and harmony and so on. These 12 notes are the building

1:20.6

blocks of our music. Everything from the greatest Mozart opera to the dumbest punk song is

1:26.2

constructed from the same basic DNA.

1:29.8

Now, this might naturally lead you to believe that the number of combinations of notes would

1:33.7

be infinite. And if not infinite, we're certainly dealing with a very, very big number.

1:38.6

Actually, I have that number. This comes courtesy of a guy named Frank Barron's, who wrote about

1:43.8

this in something called the Arts Times back in 2004.

1:47.0

A quick bit of factoring, remember that from math class, reveals that there are 479 million 1,600 possible combinations of those 12 notes, if you just play them once each.

2:00.0

479 million combinations. But if you accept that there

2:03.2

are many ways to play one note, you know, it could be a whole note, a half note, a quarter note,

2:08.6

an eighth note, a 16th note, a 32nd note, you end up with a much bigger number, something

2:14.3

just north of one quintillion possible combinations. That's a one

2:19.6

followed by 18 zeros, one quintillion. Now, just to show you how big this number is, if you played

2:25.7

a new combination of notes every second, it would take you 33 billion, 63 million, 23,0006,360 years, which is about two and a half times the age of the universe.

2:41.0

And again, that's just for non-repeating sequences using the 12 notes of the chromatic scale.

2:48.0

All right, but you just can't stick a bunch of tones and

2:50.9

semitones together and expect them to sound good. Music has to sound pleasing to the ear

2:55.6

and to the soul, too. For example, this works, this doesn't. So that means that despite that

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