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Son of radicals, Zayd Ayers Dohrn grew up underground & on the run

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🗓️ 18 May 2026

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"From my very first memories, I knew that the FBI was chasing us," Zayd Ayers Dohrn says. "My parents tried to explain it in terms [like] we were like Robin Hood or we were like the Rebel Alliance in Star Wars. So I knew in the way a kid knows that our lives were precarious." 

His mother, Bernardine Dohrn, was a leader of the '60s radical student group Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), which opposed the war in Vietnam and racism. Along with his father, Bill Ayers, she helped found the Weather Underground, a group committed to armed resistance against the government. 

Dohrn spoke with Terry Gross about his radical childhood on the run, visiting his mom in prison, and the questions he needed to ask his parents. His book is ‘Dangerous, Dirty, Violent, and Young: A Fugitive Family in the Revolutionary Underground.’ 


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0:00.0

This is Fresh Air. I'm Terry Gross. As the child of parents who were radicals in the 60s and

0:06.4

revolutionaries in the 70s, my guest Zade Ayersdorn spent his early years underground,

0:13.1

with parents who were on the run disguising themselves with fake identities. Zade Ayers-Dorn's name

0:20.4

gives you a sense of his story. His mother, Bernadine

0:23.9

Dorn, was a leader of the 60s radical student group, SDS, Students for a Democratic Society,

0:30.1

which opposed the war in Vietnam and racism. She and Zade's father, Bill Ayers, helped found the more

0:36.9

militant faction that split off from SDS in 1969

0:40.5

and became the Weather Underground, committed to armed resistance against the government.

0:46.3

For years, Bernadine was on the FBI's ten most wanted list.

0:50.9

Zaid is also named after Zaid Malik Shikur, the Minister of Information for the New York Black

0:56.6

Panthers, who designed some of their clothes as well as their disguises and was killed after a

1:02.4

traffic stop that ended in a shootout with police in 1973. The Weather Underground and the

1:08.9

Panthers had been working together. In protest against the war in

1:12.9

Vietnam and against racism, the Weather Underground planted bombs in empty police cars, the Pentagon,

1:19.9

and other places they considered symbols of the opposition, giving advance warning to people

1:24.9

in those buildings to evacuate.

1:33.1

In Zay's new memoir, he wrestles with the contradictions between his parents' commitment to their cause and how they and other members of the underground left their children, quote,

1:38.1

unwilling casualties of their parents' war.

1:41.3

The book is titled Dangerous, Dirty, Violent, and Young, a fugitive family

1:46.0

in the Revolutionary Underground. It's his family story and the larger story of the radical

1:51.7

underground, based on personal experience, as well as interviews with his family, former

1:56.8

members of the Weather Underground, and the Black Panthers, and children, as well as Bernadine Dorn's FBI files.

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