It's like whack of mole.

And weirdly, the burden of proof always seems to be on those of us who won all the court

cases, those of us who won all of the audits, and yet it's on us to disprove every single

wild-eyed allegation.

What I do is, you know, somebody throws out a claim, I investigate it, and then I disprove

it, and then they move on to another one.

And it's frustrating and it's exhausting.

And again, it just goes to the fact that, you know, a lot of these people aren't looking

for facts.

A lot of these people are just looking for affirmation of their beliefs.

But my mentality is, is that if there's still people out there who are looking for facts, then I want to give it to them.

Hi again, everybody. It's now five o'clock in New York. We should be clear-eyed here from the jump that election interference on the part of

Donald Trump and his allies is not merely something we should be bracing for. It isn't something we

should prepare for. Election interference. So election interference is underway. It's happening

right now. It is what we are covering in real time. It's this very afternoon there was a big

development on this front. To give you an idea of just how far the Trump administration is

positioning the issue, Christine Nell and the Homeland Security Secretary found time in her busy day

on the eve of a shutdown to stump in front of an assembled press for what she's calling,

for what is called the Save Act. It's a voter ID law recently approved by the House. We're going to play for you

what Noam had to say about this legislation a short time ago, not on its merits, but to illustrate

exactly how Donald Trump is feeding the beast, if you will, and framing the issue. Again,

what you're about to hear is

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