Somebody is going to win the U.S. election in the next week or two weeks or three weeks or we don't know.

I don't know what's going to happen.

And as longtime followers of this channel know, I'm a political, nonpartisan because I think the story of how ecology, human behavior, economic systems fit

together is looking two or three steps ahead from our political situation. So I've become,

you might say, politically post-tragic. I don't look at people and think, oh, Republican or Democrat or

progressive or conservative or left versus right. I look at people and think, are they aware of what's

going on in the world with all the things that we face or not?

That's one category.

Do they care about what's coming in the future?

I could add whether they use a wide versus a narrow boundary lens on the world.

A lot of people just look at a single perspective without looking at how everything

fits together. And then a fourth categorization that filters even further would be, are people

nuanced or are they certain? Are they nuanced in there's lots of things that are unknown? are they certain like humans are going extinct in the next decade and there's no argument about it or climate as runaway greenhouse or this or that?

I think there's so many things in our collective systems understanding that are unknown or can't be known yet.

That even running this podcast over these last two and a half years, I've become much more humble about what I know.

And I'm connected to a lot of very smart people.

And it's probably one of the biggest things I've learned in this podcast

is things I was really certain about or thought I understood.

I'm learning that there are different nuances to it.

So if you take these four things, being aware, caring, being a wide boundary perspective, or being nuanced

and uncertain versus fanatically of an opinion, you know, that's a large demographic of people

that still exists. But I think what we face is beyond political and no matter what happens

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