Okay, hello everyone. Not sure how long this is going to be or really what this is even going to be, but given what a heavy couple of weeks it's been, we really didn't put much thought into what we would do by way of an episode. A lot of places are not doing episodes or putting out limited things so as to not come off as a bunch of goofballs during a very sensitive time.

But I think that a lot of, like Pete, you and I have had conversations this past week that we haven't had.

And I think that a lot of white people, we're both white, have had conversations that they hadn't

had. And what's been really impressed upon me over these past couple of weeks is that's important.

You got obviously white folks like us have to be listening to our black loved ones and doing

everything we can to

try to make this world a better place. But a big part of that is having difficult conversations

with each other and looking like a baby giraffe kind of taking some first steps that we thought

we'd maybe already taken by just not being racist people.

And it's been an eye-opening couple of weeks, but I think that this can be a productive

couple of weeks. Yeah, for sure. I think like the biggest thing for me this week has been

sort of like weighing the balance of shutting up and just listening and also not being so quiet

as to where it's like you're kind of being complicit and like that's sort of been like the

juggling act and because like obviously it's important for us to say things and to recognize

that there's work to be done and that we're not where we should be

or where we need to be as a country. But I also think that it's important to not be so vocal

where you're not letting other people speak and you're not hearing other people.

Yeah, and that's been, I think, been a difficult thing that I've observed,

where we don't know how to do this. We, it's been, it's very clear that we do not know how to do this.

We, we don't know how to do this. And I think that we've always understood, or I guess,

for a lot of our adult lives understood that,

you know what, maybe the initial impression of I learned about Martin Luther King in kindergarten,

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