Joe and Parsipone.

It was just,

uh,

wants to talk about something we were just talking about.

What's going on, Joe?

Morning guys.

Hey.

Miss you guys last week. Well, we missed you, Joe. I missed you more, Joe. I want to play some golf together. I play a deer run golf and tennis club in Lincoln Park, New Jersey. Would love to have you out. Would love to have you out. Well, listen, I love to play, so we'll keep calling.

Let's do it.

So, so we'll keep calling.

Let's do it. So, so Grand Horvatt, I feel, I feel two ways about it. Grand Horvatt has definitely taken somebody's spot away. Like, they've given these spots to, like, the young, like, 16-year-old kid, Miles Russell, that's like a stud and, like, all these amateurs, and Jackson Coyven from Auburn gets the spots a couple times.

So he's definitely taken somebody's spot away. But how stupid

could the PGA tour be? They're not even going to have to pay Grant Horvatt and think of how

many guys are going to tune in and ladies, how many, how many new golfers are going to tune in just

to see Grant Horvatt, you know? And all young? And all very young, by the way. So the majority of his audience is younger than I am, where they're, you know, the 20-year-olds or teenagers and they really, really enjoy him, and that's where he's very popular. So, yeah, it's idiotic. I mean, I don't know if it's like opening up a can of worms thing. Before we get crazy and start accusing the PGA tour of this, you got to remember that there are a lot of people, I'm not a lot of people, a lot of companies are spending a lot of money to have the rights to these and to show. Barakuta champions? He's paying all that money for the barracuda. I don't know what the TV rights. No, no, the TV rights, though. I don't know what they're spending and what the, you know, what they're able to show somewhere else. I mean, like, you know, these things are very much protected because they cost a lot of money to be able to acquire. Yeah, but this also sounds like something the PGA tour would do to itself. I mean, honestly, this, it took them forever to start embracing some of this, and they still haven't fully embraced it. And then Liv is doing this whole thing with all these influencers. They do the duels. They're a third one's coming out with

Fat Perez playing with Bryson D. Chambos. They get millions and millions of views. And the PGA tour is still, you know, a little stuffy with the stuff. Yeah. And how's Liv doing? Well, on digitally a hell of a lot better than the PGA tour, you know, I mean, they are. If you look at the numbers, you know, Phil involved, Bryson involved, all that stuff.

They're wearing a stuff.

Those are digital different. GA tour you know i mean they are if you look at the numbers you know fill involved bryson involved

all that stuff they're wearing the stuff those are digital different situations i'm talking about how is

the actual live tour doing with their tv ratings they sell out their events i mean there's tons of

people that go to them and digitally they do great digitally yeah i mean that's that's sort of people that go to them. And digitally, they do great. Digitally. Yeah. I mean, that's sort of the future. It just feels like the PGA tour is like they figured out a little bit with the little like, what do they play? Like six holes or nine holes before the players. And like they figured it out a little bit, but juster i hear i hear what you're saying and i respect

that i just i don't know i just feel like yeah this isn't a premier event like figure out a way

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