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The Gist

Some Interrogation

The Gist

Peach Fish Productions

News, Daily News

4.53.7K Ratings

🗓️ 9 May 2018

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

On today's Gist, Michael Cohen has weaved a tangled web, but the mere fact that it's confusing doesn't mean we can assume he's a criminal. Tim Weiner wrote the definitive book on the CIA in 2008 with his Legacy of Ashes. Today, he helps decipher the Senate confirmation testimony of Gina Haspel, President Trump's pick to be the next CIA director. Why is the CIA rooting for Haspel? How did she dodge questions about the agency's torture program? Would the hearing have gone differently if Sen. John McCain had been present? In the Spiel, why Gina Haspel should not be confirmed.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:35.8

or Mormons.

0:37.8

It's Wednesday, May 9, 2018 from Slated to the Gestime Mike Pascar. A note on the organization

0:47.4

of information. I hooked you with that one, huh? But I think we can all admit it's very

0:51.8

hard to know and to understand what Michael Cohen's LLC, Essential Consulting, actually did.

0:59.3

Didn't seem like consulting, but perhaps understanding the nature of the business is in fact

1:03.9

essential to untangling how Trump used or was used by Russian interests. But notice how I said

1:10.6

untangling. As a news creator, leaning on atmospheric nefariousness or the whiff of malfeasance,

1:18.5

it may make me feel like I don't know, Raymond Chandler over here. But as a news consumer,

1:24.1

it is frustrating. This week in the Times ran a huge story with this graph near the top.

1:30.2

New York Times review of thousands of pages of public records and interviews with bankers,

1:34.2

lawyers and businessmen who have interacted with Mr. Cohen reveal the degree to which he has

1:38.3

often operated in the backwaters of the financial and legal worlds. The back, that's not a real thing.

1:45.8

That's not to say that the guy's on the up and up, but is the water brackish because Cohen is

1:51.8

dirty or just because we can't see it. The title of that story was How Michael Cohen, Trump's fixer,

1:57.8

built a shadowy business empire, shadowy backwaters. You're this kind of phrasing from CNN.

2:03.4

We're learning more about this new twist, a dramatic twist in the Mueller investigation machine.

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