Some Inconvenient Truths for Climate Radicals | Travis Fisher
Hold These Truths with Dan Crenshaw
Dan Crenshaw
4.6 • 16K Ratings
🗓️ 11 October 2025
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Summary
Cato Institute’s Travis Fisher joins Rep. Crenshaw to cover the current state of climate science vs climate alarmism. They unpack the new Department of Energy climate report that surveys the latest climate models, the impact of CO₂, ocean acidification, and hurricane trends. They look at the impact of a 2009 EPA regulation called the “Endangerment Finding,” which has had a massively negative impact on American innovation and prosperity. They also discuss the path forward towards energy realism: reliable, affordable, and secure energy paired with innovation-driven, commonsense environmental progress.
Travis Fisher is the director of energy and environmental policy studies at the Cato Institute. He has nearly 20 years of experience in energy policy, including leadership roles at the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, the Institute for Energy Research, and the Department of Energy during the first Trump administration. He most recently served again on a detail to the Department of Energy under Secretary Chris Wright, where he managed the development of the new climate report. Find him on X at @ts_fisher and read his research at Cato Institute.
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| 0:00.0 | We hold these truths to be self-evident. That all men are creed. As a member of Congress, I get to have a lot of really interesting people in the office. Experts on what they're talking about. This is the podcast for insights into the issues. China, bioterrorism, Medicare for all, in-depth discussions, breaking it down into simple terms. We hold. We hold these truths. We hold these truths. |
| 0:21.3 | With Dan Crenshaw. |
| 0:24.0 | Welcome back to Hold These Truth, the greatest podcast ever. |
| 0:27.8 | Tell your friends, five stars. |
| 0:29.7 | Joining me today is Travis Fisher. |
| 0:31.8 | He's the director of Energy and Environment Policy Studies at the Cato Institute. |
| 0:35.7 | Travis, thanks for coming in. |
| 0:37.4 | Thanks for having me. |
| 0:38.0 | Appreciate it. So you recently detailed the Department of Energy from Cato? Yeah. Okay. |
| 0:44.7 | And worked on the new climate report. It's gotten a lot of headlines rather quickly that |
| 0:51.6 | that thing was turned out. I'd like to just jump into that. |
| 0:57.0 | I mean, so, you know, today we're going to talk about climate change, um, energy |
| 1:01.8 | policy, tradeoffs, all the things we, we've often talked about on this podcast. |
| 1:06.8 | But, but, uh, Secretary Wright put this out, you know, again, right, rather quickly. Um, and I think to, to plant a flag, really and say, like, look, there's, there's other, there are other considerations, folks, besides just the alarmist view. And, um, I, I just want to go through some of it with you. Just I'm just got the executive summary in front of me. |
| 1:29.1 | But you know the details of this stuff. |
| 1:31.1 | I mean, you know, well, maybe before I start asking questions based on this, |
| 1:37.8 | why don't you give us your basic take of it? |
| 1:40.2 | And maybe why this isn't even, |
| 1:41.9 | why this is an important document to even produce well I think it |
| 1:46.6 | caught a lot of us off guard because it wasn't clear whether trump in his version 2.0 was going |
| 1:52.8 | to go after you know the climate paradigm the endangerment finding all the wrecks that go with it |
| 1:58.4 | and it became clear to me this was in mid-March when |
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