Some Educated Guesses About Trump’s Second Term
WIRED Politics Lab
WIRED
4.2 • 244 Ratings
🗓️ 12 December 2024
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
Donald Trump’s presidency will be unpredictable, but in our final show, we make some guesses about what’ll happen anyway. WIRED’s Tim Marchman sits down with reporters David Gilbert and Makena Kelly to talk about what could go wrong between Trump and Musk, if Christian nationalists will get their porn ban, the rise of human brain organoids and whether the new administration will finally declassify those UFO files.
Tim Marchman is @timmarchman. David Gilbert is @DaithaiGilbert. Makena Kelly is @kellymakena. Be sure to subscribe to the WIRED Politics Lab newsletter here.
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| 0:18.0 | This is Wired Politics Lab, a show about how tech is changing politics. I'm Tim Marchman, |
| 0:24.4 | Wired's director of science, politics, and security, filling in for Leah Figer, who is unable to be |
| 0:29.5 | here due to a personal emergency. The election season is over, and it's our final episode of Wired |
| 0:36.5 | Politics Lab. One thing we do know about the next four years is that Donald Trump will be right at the center of things, |
| 0:42.3 | shaping events, making everything about him, and he's always unpredictable. |
| 0:47.3 | Equally unpredictable is the, at least for now, apparent co-president, Elon Musk. |
| 0:53.3 | And even beyond Trump and Musk, 2025 seems to have a lot of wide-present. at least for now, apparent co-president, Elon Musk. |
| 0:59.1 | And even beyond Trump and Musk, 2025 seems to have a lot of wild cards in store. |
| 1:01.5 | What's next for the far right? |
| 1:06.7 | How is the administration going to pay off the political debts it owes to Christian nationalists? |
| 1:12.2 | How are the Lords of Silicon Valley going to both sidle up to the administration and joust with one of their own for influence and proximity to the president? And what can we expect |
| 1:17.4 | from broader developments in the tech world, ranging from the continued growth of generative |
| 1:22.6 | AI to the very uncertain status of TikTok as an entity able to legally operate in the United States. |
| 1:30.5 | Joining me to take some educated guesses or two wired politics reporters, |
| 1:34.7 | McKenna Kelly. Hi, McKenna. Good to be here. |
| 1:37.9 | And from Cork, Ireland, David Gilbert. |
| 1:40.2 | Hey, Tim. Good to be here one final time. |
| 1:43.5 | So let's start with Elon Musk. McKenna, let's just assume, as we've already predicted on this program, that the Musk-Trump romance, the co-presidency, will not survive. |
| 1:55.7 | What already existing fault line do you think could cause it to explode? |
| 2:03.0 | I think, I don't know if it's any specific policy issue, but they have just two huge egos that I imagine Trump might get upset with |
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