If you talk to a parent these days, especially a parent who's trying to juggle a career and a young kid or two,

there's this slurry of emotion you can hear in their voice.

Because whatever they pictured parenthood would look like, it sure wasn't this.

People don't even know where the boundaries are between work and family life right now, and I think that's true for most people.

It's certainly true for me.

Betsy Stevenson is an economist, she's also a mom, and this is her winding up to unleash that emotional slurry.

I was running five minutes late because I decided to embark on the project of getting the tangles out of my daughter's hair at 11.

At 11.30 and it just turned out to be a bigger project than I thought because she has long hair and it got really naughty from the ocean.

And so I'm like, like, Matilda, I've got a podcast at noon.

So we got a like abort and I'll pick it up after lunch.

Betsy's always been interested in the way his work and family intersect.

Now with this pandemic, work and family, they're not just intersecting, they're braided together.

It feels like evidence of what she's been saying all along.

Economists have often treated work decisions in isolation from family decisions, but there's no way to separate your life like that.

Everything is really intertwined.

I feel like what this year is about is like, we're all that guy.

Do you remember that viral video, the guy in Korea, where he's doing a live shot?

And the kid wanders in that video is one of my favorite things of all time.

You remember this video.

And what will it mean for the wider region?

I think one of your children is just walked in.

I mean, shift this.

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