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Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Solving the American Gun Crisis (Ryan Busse)

Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Lemonada Media

Education, Self-improvement

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2021

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

“The NRA and gun owners then signified, you know, the sort of comradery, responsibility, safety, sort of a bygone, I don't know, sort of an Americana, right? The Campbell soup can sort of Americana. I don't remember ever seeing or hearing about the impending demise of the Republic, or how evil every Democrat was, or how we should hate our neighbors, or how we should arm ourselves for an eventual civil war or an insurrection. That was never, that was never a part of my upbringing.”  So says Ryan Busse, author of GUNFIGHT: MY BATTLE AGAINST THE INDUSTRY THAT RADICALIZED AMERICA. Busse, who spent decades running gun sales for Kimber in Whitefish, Montana, which focused, until recently, on crafting hunting rifles and other firearms for sportsmen, quit his job last year after he realized that his dreams of transforming the gun industry from inside—or at least being a consistent voice of reason and morality—were fantasy. He watched as the industry he used to love became increasingly toxic, distorted, and militant. In his book, which is a fascinating look at the forces within the NRA and the way they’ve radicalized America, he deftly explains all the reasons we are where we are today: Where our children are forced to practice active shooter drills at school, and where other kids—like 17-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse—can buy a semi-automatic AR-15 style rifle and kill two people while wounding another. And then be acquitted for self-defense. As he argues, we are on the brink of a Civil War with gun-owning, far Right militants. I know we’re scared, and he believes we have every reason to be. Like Busse, I’m also from Montana, and know many people who hunt—growing up, guns were present but never abundant. Now, responsible gun owners are being pushed aside by militant couch commandos, who are desperate, to quote Busse, “to shoot a democrat.”  While Busse is no longer in the industry, he is firmly in the movement for common sense gun laws, arguing that our best chance for reform is to bring hunters and sportsmen on-side. As he explains, it can be done—and we can bring the NRA to its knees.  EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: Exploring the cultural connection to guns…(12:12) Hate, conspiracy, national tragedies and gun sales…(16:56) Profiting off of fear…(32:06) What do we do?...(40:04) MORE FROM RYAN BUSSE Gunfight: My Battle Against the Industry that Radicalized America Ryan Busse's Website Follow Ryan on Twitter and on Instagram DIG DEEPER: The Omnivore's Dilemma: A Natural History of Four Meals - Michael Pollan FBI background checks, a proxy for gun sales, surged in 2020 - The Economist, January 2021 GET INVOLVED: Mom’s Demand Action Everytown for Gun Safety Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi friends. Throughout this holiday season, you will find me right here per normal. We will keep

0:06.6

publishing new episodes every week and a few solos thrown in as well. So when you just need to escape

0:14.2

from the business of the holiday shuffle or take a break from mom or dad or who knows who,

0:19.8

we'll be here as we always are.

0:22.8

Hi, it's Elise Loonan, host of pulling the thread.

0:34.4

I'm an author, a podcast host, and parent who built a long career in media. I grew up

0:39.4

in a state of perpetual curiosity, investigating the world and asking a lot of questions. In this

0:45.8

show, I chat with culture defining leaders, thinkers, and experts about this rare moment that we

0:51.3

find ourselves in and how to think about our own lives and experiences

0:55.7

within a larger social and spiritual construct.

1:00.0

The NRA and gun owners then signified, you know,

1:02.6

this sort of camaraderie, responsibility, safety,

1:06.2

sort of a bygone, I don't know, sort of an Americana,

1:10.1

right, a Campbell soup can sort of Americana. I don't know, sort of an Americana, right? A Campbell's soup can sort of Americana.

1:12.7

I don't remember ever seeing or hearing about the impending demise of the Republic or how evil

1:19.3

every Democrat was or how we should hate our neighbors or how we should arm herself

1:22.5

for an eventual civil war or an insurrection.

1:24.9

That was never, that was never a part of my upbringing.

1:28.7

So says Ryan Booth, author of Gun Fight,

1:31.7

My Battle Against the Industry that Radicalized America.

1:35.7

Boots, who spent decades running gun sales for Kimber

1:38.7

in Whitefish, Montana, which focused until recently

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