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Hello, dear listener. Welcome to Owning It the Anxiety podcast with me, Caroline Forren.substack.com. Thank you. Hello, dear listener, welcome to owning it the anxiety podcast with me,

Caroline Forin. This week, my guest is a New York Times reporter and international bestselling author,

Charles Duhigg. He wrote The Power of Habit, and he also has just written a new book called

Super Communicators, which is fantastic. Here we

talk about the ability to communicate social anxiety, this massively common anxiety that a lot of

us feel and he gives some really helpful insights into why this is and how to step around it so that you could feel comfortable not just being

a communicator but maybe even becoming a super communicator. Thanks so much for listening and as

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And I'll be back next week.

Charles Duhigg, thank you so much for being a guest on owning at the Anxiety podcast.

It's so great to have you all the way from, are you in... Santa Cruz, California.

What a lovely face to me.

I was so thrilled to get your email, and I don't think you had realized when you emailed me

that I was already super aware of who you were and your books and had quoted you extensively

in not just previous podcasts but in books that I had written myself because of the power

of habit which was such an important book for me and for everyone who read it. And now

you're back with a new book, Super Communicators. And I was so honored that you sought out my

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