Hello there, welcome to the Mathias Shibarca podcast.

My name is Mathias and this is a podcast about mental health and moving towards what's

meaningful, even despite hardship.

Today we're talking about negotiation and solving arguments, especially this argument

where you feel like you're at a gridlock where you don't know how to solve it.

Maybe you've been going around the block on this argument a lot.

You've tried several different passes at this and it feels like each time you leave

more and more divided, you leave more and more frustrated trying to get to the bottom

of this argument.

This conversation is breaking down a piece of the Gautman method, which is a team of

psychologists, John and Julie Gautman, who created a method for being able to work through

these gridlock arguments.

I'm summarizing a piece of their content here called The Art of Compromise.

If you like this episode, I'm actually doing an event with the Gautman Institute, which

is super, super cool.

I'm geeking out about it.

I'm really, really excited for the opportunity.

It's on May 3rd.

I'm going to be doing an Instagram live with the Gautman Institute and we'll be talking about

defensiveness.

We'll be talking about how to unpack the hurt that's happened in the past and make repair,

especially when you feel like your partner just is shut down and not really listening to

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