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National Park After Dark

Solved: The Shenandoah Murders ft. Kathryn Miles

National Park After Dark

Danielle LaRock & Cassandra Yahnian

True Crime, Places & Travel, History, Society & Culture

4.6 • 5.8K Ratings

🗓️ 1 July 2024

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

In June of 1996 two women, Julie Williams and Lollie Winans, were found brutally murdered in Shenandoah National Park. Their murderer (or murderers) were never found and the case has remained unsolved - until now.On June 20, 2024 the FBI announced that the assailant has been identified as Walter Leo Jackson Sr. Today we sit down for the second time, with Kathryn Miles, author and investigative journalist who has dedicated years of her life researching this case and uncovering faults in the investigation. While the FBI has closed the case, she unveils in this interview that there are a lot more questions that need to be answered, including the possibility of more victims. This case might be labeled as closed, but in reality, this new information has just opened up a whole new investigation.If you have any information concerning this case, please contact the FBI’s Toll-Free tip line at1-800-CALL-FBI (1-800-225-5324). You may also contact your local FBI office, the nearestAmerican Embassy or Consulate, or you can submit a tip online at  Electronic Tip Form | FBI. For a full list of our sources, visit npadpodcast.com/episodesFor the latest NPAD updates, group travel details, merch and more, follow us on npadpodcast.com and our socials:Instagram: @‌nationalparkafterdarkTikTok: @‌nationalparkafterdarkSupport the show by becoming an Outsider and receive ad free listening, bonus content and more on Patreon or Apple Podcasts. Want to see our faces? Catch full episodes on our YouTube Page!Thank you to this week’s partners!BetterHelp: National Park After Dark is sponsored by BetterHelp. Get 10% off.Smalls: For 50% off your first order, head to Smalls.com/NPAD and use code NPAD.Cremo Bodwash: You can find all the new, decadent scents of Cremo Women’s Body Wash at Walgreens, CVS, or CremoCompany.comNaked Wines: To get Naked Wines’ 6 bottle for $39.99 offer, head to NakedWines.com/NPAD and use code NPAD for both the code AND password.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome back to National Park After Dark.

0:05.0

Hey everyone.

0:06.0

Today we have a pretty unique episode.

0:08.7

This has never happened before but we're really thrilled for this episode for a couple of reasons. Number one we're speaking to one of our favorite guests we've ever had on Catherine Miles. So this is her second appearance on National Park After Dark and she's here for a pretty amazing reason and that is the

0:26.2

recent development in the case of Lolly Winnens and Julie Williams and if you are OG listeners you know that their case is the first one that

0:36.9

Cassie ever covered. Yes and there has been breaking news reports that it is

0:42.0

solved so we have seen everyone reaching out to us

0:45.7

and we wanted to hop on here right away because this is a case that we have been

0:50.5

personally invested in it's close to our hearts and we wanted to bring it to you all as soon as we could.

0:55.6

Yeah, so we rearranged a bunch of stuff to get this out as fast as possible and thankfully

1:00.4

Catherine was great with just hopping right on and so eager to speak about this case.

1:06.5

Obviously she's been invested for so long.

1:08.8

So in our very first National Park After Dark episode, like I said,

1:12.2

Cassie covered the chilling story of two women who

1:15.3

traveled to Shenandoah National Park in 1996 for a hiking and camping adventure but were

1:20.6

found brutally murdered. Lolly Winans and Julie Williams were in a romantic relationship

1:25.0

and ventured to the park for a weekend

1:27.0

as a celebration for both a new job

1:29.0

and moving in together in Vermont.

1:31.0

They were both avid outdoors women and brought their golden

1:34.0

retriever Taj along with them. When Julie's father had still not heard from her

1:38.2

on May 31st, the day before she was supposed to start her new job, he reported her missing.

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