Hello and welcome back to another episode of the crime and coffee couple. My name's Allison.

My name's Mike. Hey, Mike. Hey, thanks for having me. I appreciate you. You are welcome. It's good to have you as a guest today on our show.

Hey, I prefer the guest spot. It's less pressure. It's, you know, a lot of things, eyes looking at me, ears listening to me.

You know, now I can just kind of comment here and there and do my thing, you know,

instead of having to worry about that.

And usually when I do my cases, I am going on like three or four hours of sleep.

Yes, because you're a procrastinator.

Yeah, and that's okay.

And that's okay.

I'm trying to think like the Saturday Night Live.

You do you, boo. Yeah, that's what I'm going to do.

It works for you.

Yeah, so we're a married couple and we talk about true crimes over some coffee.

Usually I have my cold brew over here, made all myself at the curing.

And you're doing caffeine today?

No, no, decaf.

Yeah, afternoon, typically I'd like to do the decaf. I was going to say we don't want to keep you raven all night. No, no. I mean, I don't need any help staying up late at night. I need to go to sleep earlier.

Yeah, I don't know how you do it because I'm an early bird. I just like I feel like I like to get

alone time, you know, at the end of the night. Like kids are kind of decompress kind of sitting there a little bit. Not that, you know, that you are stressful or. Well, our kids are pretty laid back too. So it's not like when they

were little, little, I could get that. Yeah, they're 13 and 10. So it's not like they're three and five

or something. And it's like all day long. Remember those days? Oh, yeah. I remember saying, when will I ever get to have a hot cup of coffee? Oh my God, you did say that.

Because I used to have to, you know, we had a one year old and a four year old.

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