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The Ramsey Show

Solve for Peace Instead of Screwing Around With Debt

The Ramsey Show

Ramsey Network

Business, Education, Investing, Self-improvement

4.636.7K Ratings

🗓️ 21 August 2025

⏱️ 128 minutes

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0:00.0

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0:06.7

Start budgeting for free today.

0:14.8

From the headquarters of Ramsey Solutions, it's the Ramsey show.

0:18.7

We help people build wealth, do work that they love, and create actual amazing relationships.

0:28.6

Rachel Cruz, Ramsey Personality, number one, bestselling author and co-host of the Smart Money Happy Hour hit on Ramsey Network.

0:36.0

My daughter is my co-host today. Open phones at

0:38.9

AAA 825-5-225. Jim is in Connecticut. Hi, Jim. How are you? Hey, how's it going? Better than I deserve.

0:47.9

What's up? So I have a question. I've been listening for some time now, and I haven't heard this question answered.

0:57.0

So basically, we have about $90,000 in student debt, and we have the money to pay it off.

1:05.1

Good.

1:06.1

But my question is, so I have a friend that's in real estate, and he basically is telling me to get into

1:14.0

real estate with that money rather than paying off my student debt. So essentially like, you know,

1:20.1

putting down 20% on maybe two, three, maybe four properties, for example, using that money to cash

1:27.1

below the payment on the student loan,

1:30.9

and then obviously build equity and wealth for whatever, our kids, for the family, whatever.

1:38.4

Yeah.

1:39.2

What do you think about that?

1:40.8

Well, I did something similar in my 20s, and I went broke.

1:49.5

So I'm not a fan.

1:51.8

I think your friend doesn't know what he's talking about.

1:54.9

I now own several hundred million dollars worth of real estate.

1:59.5

But I did not do it the way you're talking about.

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