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The Ramsey Show

Change Starts Today. Don’t Wait Till You’re 65 and Broke

The Ramsey Show

Ramsey Network

Business, Education, Investing, Self-improvement

4.636.7K Ratings

🗓️ 20 August 2025

⏱️ 129 minutes

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0:00.0

Brought to you by the Every Dollar app. Start budgeting for free today.

0:11.2

From the headquarters of Ramsey Solutions, it's the Ramsey Show, where we help people build wealth, do work that they love, and create actual amazing relationships.

0:23.6

George Camel, Ramsey personality, number one bestselling author and co-host of the super hit,

0:28.9

Smart Money Happy Hour on the Ramsey Networks.

0:31.6

He's my co-host today.

0:33.3

Phone number here is AAA 8255-225.

0:37.1

Mark is in North Carolina. Hey, Mark, how are you?

0:40.8

I'm doing very well. I hope you are, sir. I'm better than I deserve, sir. What's up?

0:47.4

I am 65 years old. I have made absolutely horrible decisions with money all my life.

0:55.6

I have no nest egg.

0:57.7

My wife has maybe 10,000 or 401k, and I've got maybe a couple thousand.

1:06.3

And we have started the steps. Just last payday, we got our $1,000 emergency fund paid,

1:17.6

and we also got $200 paid down on our smallest unsecured debt, so now it's only $150 left.

1:29.0

I've got two other credit cards and a car loan and a mortgage.

1:36.8

Total debt, including mortgage, is $137,000.

1:42.2

The mortgage is a 15-year fixed rate.

1:48.2

It's set up to be paid half a payment every two weeks, so in 12 months.

1:53.6

I've actually paid 13 payments instead of 12.

1:58.1

And since my wife, since we don't have anything lined up for retirement, I'm trying to figure out what would be the best way for me to go.

2:12.3

Make sure I get out of all debt with everything I've got.

2:20.2

I found out that if I pay just $425 towards my principal each month on my home,

2:29.3

I can have it paid off in five years.

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