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Rule of Life

Solitude 04: Encountering Our Enemies with Ken Shigematsu

Rule of Life

Practicing the Way

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8700 Ratings

🗓️ 5 October 2023

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

In solitude, we not only encounter ourselves and who we are before God, we also encounter the voices of others. We can be met with fear, regret, and external voices that may be challenging to distinguish from God or ourselves. Is this why solitude can be so challenging? How can we tell the difference between God’s voice and the voice of the enemy? Why does solitude and silence facilitate this encounter with our enemies? 

In this conversation, John Mark Comer interviews Ken Shigematsu. Ken is the senior pastor of Tenth Church in Vancouver, BC, one of the largest and most diverse city-center churches in Canada. He is a recipient of the Queen Elizabeth Diamond Jubilee Medal awarded to Canadians in recognition for their outstanding contribution to the country. Before entering pastoral ministry, he worked for the Sony Corporation in Tokyo. Ken is the author of the award-winning bestsellers God in My Everything and Survival Guide for the Soul, and his recently released book (May 2023) Now I Become Myself. Ken lives in Vancouver with his wife, Sakiko, and their son, Joey.

This podcast accompanies the Solitude Practice, developed by Practicing the Way. Thanks to the generosity of The Circle, all our resources are free. To learn more about The Circle or to run a Practice with your church, community, or small group, visit https://www.practicingtheway.org/.

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0:00.0

God's voice tends to reassure you, Satan's voice frightens you. God's voice enlightens you.

0:11.2

Satan's voice confuses you. God's voice encourages you. Satan's voice discourages you.

0:20.4

God's voice comforts you. Satan's voice discourages you. God's voice comforts you, Satan's voice worries you,

0:26.8

and God's voice calms you and Satan's voice obsesses you.

0:41.5

You're listening to the Rule of Life podcast by practicing the way.

0:47.6

In each season, we explore an ancient practice from the way of Jesus and its relevance for the modern era.

0:51.4

This is Season 4. Solitude.

1:15.0

Hey, everybody. welcome back.

1:22.2

I am so happy to introduce you to our conversation partner for this episode, Ken Shigamatsu.

1:29.6

He is the senior pastor of 10th church in Vancouver, BC, one of the largest and most diverse city-centered churches in Canada. I love Vancouver, B.C. Ken's been there for well over two decades. He's

1:35.3

widely respected, not just in the city, but across the nation and far beyond. He's a newer friend

1:40.9

to mine over the last year or two. I came to friendship to him first just through reading his books.

1:47.1

He's written several beautiful books, God in My Everything, which is all about rule of life.

1:52.7

And then most recently, now I become myself, which is one of the best things I've ever read on a spirituality of self-awareness and how that ties into our life with

2:02.3

God. Before he kind of started into pastoral ministry, worked for the Sony Corporation in Tokyo.

2:08.2

So he just brings this fascinating cross-cultural kind of voice and vantage point to the conversation

2:17.1

around spiritual formation.

2:18.3

And I specifically wanted to ask him questions about this kind of underbelly side to the practice of solitude,

2:26.3

and all that comes up as we go into a place of encounter.

2:32.3

Here's my conversation with Kent.

2:45.3

The solitude practice is a four-week experience designed to be run in your church, small group,

2:48.1

or community.

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