Solidarity Fridays - Week 17
Psychedelics Today
Psychedelics Today, LLC
4.6 • 598 Ratings
🗓️ 24 July 2020
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Summary
In today's Solidarity Fridays episode, Joe and Kyle sit down and discuss two news stories emerging from Portland, Oregon- first, paramilitary-like federal agents showing up in unmarked cars and arresting protestors, and second, the beating and pepper-spraying of one of those protestors, Christopher David.
They look at these events from multiple perspectives- what fears are driving the opinions of people who are against these protests? Why does there always seem to be money when it comes to military expenses, but never any money when it comes to the wellbeing of people? How many police officers fully stand behind what they're doing, and how many are simply following orders or deeming certain evils necessary solely to earn their federal pension?
They analyze systems and better ways forward, like considering a bottom-up approach vs. the standard top-down approach or Ken Wilbur's framework of transcending an old system while including all the lessons from it. They also discuss decriminalization vs. legalization and the importance of regulation, and the massive scale of concepts and systems, like how MKUltra needs to be included when discussing the history of psychology.
They also discuss telehealth and ketamine-assisted psychotherapy and the complications surrounding it right now, from both therapists and clients not wanting to be in an office to the concerns of self-administration at home, to the benefits of self-exploration for those who do feel comfortable and safe engaging on their own. And lastly, they talk about their upcoming Navigating Psychedelics class, which is selling fast and will never be cheaper than it is now.
Notable quotes
"This is illegal, and people seem to forget that it's illegal. Even if it's decriminalized in a locality, doesn't mean the feds can't come in and shut you down. And that's why they call me the party pooper." -Joe
"How many people get into higher systems and institutions with really good intentions [of] wanting to make change, and thinking... "I'm going to change it from the top down." ...What would a 'bottom-up' approach be, and how could we give power back to communities to start to create their own change, instead of thinking that we need to change it from these hierarchical systems? I always come back to Bucky Fuller's quote about just creating a different system- you don't change a system by trying to change it, you make a new system that's obsolete to that old way of being. ...I'm thinking also too, from the somatic lens in therapy- approaching it more cognitively, intellectually- this whole top-down brain approach vs. a body-oriented approach and working with the trauma, working with the body and thinking about, ok, what's the body? It's people, it's communities. How do we start to work that way?" -Kyle
"I just prefer to see government funds spent on stuff like the green new deal to save us from climate change. Or health care for all- those kinds of things. Why spend to put people in jail, when we could have, just like with cannabis, taxable revenue. I don't want to let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Just because it's not equitable, I don't think that totally excludes the thing. I'd just like to see less people going to jail, less people being harmed by black market drugs, and more clean appropriate drugs available to the people who want them." -Joe
"How do we have the money to send these paramilitary agents in but you didn't have the money to produce personal protection equipment for hospitals? What's going on here?" -Kyle
Links
U.S. Homeland Security confirms three units sent paramilitary officers to Portland
Navy veteran beaten and pepper-sprayed by federal agents at protest in Portland
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Navigating Psychedelics


Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | All right. Welcome back, everybody to Solidarity Fridays. Yeah, excited to be here, Joe. How you doing today? |
| 0:20.0 | Doing pretty wonderful, beautiful July day here in Colorado. And I heard you're in the middle of a |
| 0:26.6 | heat wave of sorts. Hot, hot and humid here on the East Coast. Yeah, it's kind of intense. |
| 0:33.5 | Hopefully you get some relief soon. Yeah. I think it's supposed to storm this afternoon. |
| 0:39.0 | That usually helps, yeah. |
| 0:41.8 | Cool. |
| 0:42.5 | So some interesting news going on in the world. |
| 0:47.2 | But I guess before we dig into that, let's perhaps talk about psychedelics today. |
| 0:55.3 | What is it? |
| 0:56.6 | Oh, man. |
| 0:57.2 | Coffee's not kicking in yet. |
| 0:58.7 | We're calling it navigating psychedelics for clinicians and therapists. |
| 1:02.9 | It's a really great program that we've put together over the course of years and now with |
| 1:09.9 | CEOs for some professions. So it's got a ton of pre-recorded |
| 1:14.6 | material and essentially use our eight weeks of live supported class time to break that information |
| 1:20.1 | down. And you can ask questions and dig in further. Essentially the intention is to give you a strong |
| 1:25.9 | foundation in which you can use that to orient |
| 1:29.4 | yourself in this whole kind of weird field of psychedelics as it develops. Some people are just |
| 1:34.9 | doing ketamine work, some people are doing clinical research. Other people are getting their |
| 1:39.2 | properties ready to be able to do legal MDMA work or psilocybin work when that becomes available in your locale. |
| 1:47.7 | So this course is to get you ready, give you an amazing foundation. |
| 1:51.9 | And you can learn more at psychedelic education center.com. |
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