A word of warning. This podcast explores graphic and disturbing stories and includes some strong language.

It therefore may not be suitable for our young listeners or other folks who may find it disturbing. Hello and welcome to True Crime Daily, the podcast, covering high profile and

under the radar cases every week.

We are recording this podcast on July 8th, 2020.

I'm Anna Garcia, and our guest this week is Friend of the Program,

Forensic Psychologist Dr. Judy Ho. is friend of the program, forensic psychologist,

Dr Judy Ho.

Welcome back, Judy, how are you?

Thank you.

I'm so glad to be with you, Anna, again.

And so good to see you.

Love your new space. I think it looks super Zen for all the conversations we're going to be having.

Yes, in fact I should be burning candles for the conversations we will be having. We've got two incredible cases, both very tragic, but the first

one you know that we'll be talking about is one that we've all been following

for some time. So these are our cases this week, Judy.

Human remains have been found stuffed in suitcases

in Seattle.

They've finally been identified.

The bodies were found by two teenagers

who were recording a video for Tik-Tok.

But first, a horrible update on a case that we all have been following.

This is the case of missing Fort Hood soldier, Vanessa Gien. Her remains have been positively

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