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SOG One-Zero School, Post-War Reflections & Views on Vietnam, Iran & Modern Conflicts | Ep. 289 | Pt. 3

Mike Drop

Mike Ritland

News, Personal Journals, Society & Culture, Politics

4.96.5K Ratings

🗓️ 1 May 2026

⏱️ 102 minutes

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Summary

MACV-SOG operator Travis Mills continues sharing his extraordinary journey. He discusses running the One-Zero School at Long Thanh to train new SOG team leaders, the profound sense of purpose that emerged from surviving the FOB 4 sapper attack, his transition out of the Army, and decades of post-service work—and shares his straightforward views on current threats like Iran, nuclear proliferation, and the need for clear military objectives backed by decisive action. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

How, were you there for a few cycles or did you stay there along?

0:04.0

Yeah. I was there.

0:07.0

I was, I went and actually met Chief Sog and Chief Op 35, Colonel Johnson, Colonel Kavanaugh.

0:18.0

And they explained to me what needed to be done and what I was going to do.

0:25.1

And, you know, I said, well, sir, and they said, you're going to get, your instructors are going to be qualified one zeros or one-ones.

0:37.4

And you'll get one from each one of the FOBs and and they will be there

0:43.8

and they will come down and spend two or three cycles and then we'll send some new ones and I said well

0:51.1

you know I know how it works I've been there before when you get a levy like that

0:57.6

you send you troublemakers you send the ones that's a pain they said no we promise you you will get

1:05.8

good people it will not be people that they want to get rid of. Yeah. And they were true to their word.

1:15.9

I mean, I got some of the absolute legends, squirrel spruce, Dick Gross, Big Bob Barnes. I mean,

1:23.7

guys that everybody knew that were top of the line one zeros,

1:29.3

they really knew what they were doing.

1:33.3

They've been there, done that.

1:35.3

And that was the good things is because when the students came in,

1:43.3

they would go to their original camp at first, and then they would be there

1:49.6

till the next cycle came and they would come down. So they had been in their camp, whether it be

1:55.9

contoon, Bami, Tuitt, you know, Danang, whatever F-O-B-4.

2:01.7

So they had heard these guys' names.

2:04.7

They knew these were guys that had been out there

2:08.2

on the ground, they knew what they were doing.

2:11.8

So the students didn't say, well, this guy's just an instructor.

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