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Mike Green, I'm here in Marin County for a real vision.

I am incredibly excited to continue my path in 2021 of being an equal opportunity offender of all sensibilities by bringing on Rohan Grey assistant professor of law at Williamette University.

Rohan, thank you so much for joining us. Thanks for having me.

So you and I have interacted over Twitter after I listened to a podcast appearance that you did on my friend Dimitri Coffinus is podcast hidden forces, which I thought was absolutely spectacular.

And I've spoken to Dimitri about about you and your conversation and it was very palpable how hard that conversation was for Dimitri as an individual who has come through the Austrian school.

Now acknowledges that there are some significant problems associated with that.

But you fall very much into the camp that says, look, money is effectively a construct of the government.

There is no exchangeability at this point.

And your approach coming at it from a law standpoint actually meshes very well with mine.

And I think it's really, really important to actually think about that in the context of, you know, well, why was the constitution written by lawyers, et cetera, right?

So maybe you could give us just some of your quick background and then we can go into a discussion particularly around the dynamics of stable coins and regulation, et cetera.

Yeah, sure. So I grew up my father is a lawyer actually in Australia, but he was a scientist beforehand and worked on telecommunication regulation in the 1980s when they were first rolling out pay TV and communications upgrades in Australia.

So I grew up kind of listening to that and was always interested in technology and intelligence related issues.

But I went to law school in the United States after moving here when I was about 20 on exchange, starting political science at UPAN and friends of mine there who went on to work on Wall Street while I was teaching at an elementary school in Harlem.

I kind of became interested in finance and particularly growing up in the shadow of the global financial crisis it loomed heavy over all of the issues that I was looking at and interested in and just sort of daily life.

I kind of got into money pretty early on there mostly just through following blogs and online news discussions and things in that very sort of fertile period of blogging after the global financial crisis where there were all these really interesting people all kind of having these different conversations across their respective platforms.

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