Socialist States & the Environment w/ Salvatore Engel-Di Mauro

Guerrilla History

Henry

History, Education

4.8 • 622 Ratings

🗓️ 14 January 2022

⏱️ 149 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Guerrilla History, we bring on Professor Salvatore Engel-Di Mauro to talk about his book, Socialist States and the Environment: Lessons for Eco-Socialist Futures. This book is an analytical and historical examination of the impact of Socialist States on the environment, and busts many myths that we hear in the imperialist core about this historical record. A really deep dive of a conversation that will arm you with facts and historical perspective to combat the dual conservative/liberal propaganda against socialist states!

Salvatore Engel-Di Mauro is Professor at the Geography Department of SUNY New Paltz and is chief editor for the journal Capitalism Nature Socialism. His book Socialist States and the Environment is available from Pluto Press: https://www.plutobooks.com/9780745340418/socialist-states-and-the-environment/. You can also find the journal Capitalism Nature Socialism for more invaluable anti-capitalist environmental perspectives: http://www.cnsjournal.org/.

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0:27.2	Hello and welcome to guerrilla history, the podcast that acts as a reconnaissance report of global proletarian history and aims to use the lessons of history to analyze the present. I'm your host, Henry
0:39.3	Huckmacki, joined, as always by my co-hosts, Professor Adnan Hussein, historian and director of the
0:45.3	School of Religion at Queen's University in Ontario, Canada. Hello, Adnan. How are you doing
0:49.6	today? I'm well, Hendry. It's wonderful to be with you. Yeah, it's been a little while since we've had a full
0:54.7	episode. So it'll be, this is going to be a lot of fun. Also joined, as always by Brett O'Shea, host of Revolutionary Left Radio and co-host of the Red Menace podcast. Hello, Brett. How are you holding up today? Hello, I'm doing pretty good. Glad to be here. No, of course. It's always, it's always nice when we've got the full crew, and it's always nice when we have a just excellent guest that's going to be coming up on the show because these conversations really are very stimulating intellectually for me as well as hopefully the listeners.
1:24.7	So today, we've got a conversation about socialist states and the environment.
1:30.3	And we're basing this conversation off of the book, Socialist States and the Environment,
1:35.4	which is a pretty new book. It only came out a few months ago, written by Salvatore Engel
1:41.0	de Mauro, who is a professor at the geography department at Sunni-Nupulse,
1:45.6	and as chief editor for the journal Capitalism, Nature, Socialism.
1:50.4	So I guess just as my preambulatory thing before I get into, turn it over to the guys for
1:57.7	their opening thoughts on what we're going to be looking at here.
2:04.2	You know, socialists states get a bad rap when it comes to the environment.
2:10.9	And they always have both when some of these state socialist countries like the Soviet Union, as well as China under Mao, we're still there, as well as these reassessments of their legacy.
2:18.9	Generally, they get pretty short shrift when looking at the environment specifically.
2:24.9	And this book, it does a lot to dispel a lot of those notions as more or less false
2:30.2	notions.
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