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Intelligence Squared

Social Mobility and Making It in Modern Britain, with Hashi Mohamed and Razia Iqbal

Intelligence Squared

Intelligence Squared

Arts, News, Society & Culture, News Commentary

4.21.1K Ratings

🗓️ 11 February 2020

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

This episode is an exploration of social mobility and inequality in contemporary Britain, featuring Hashi Mohamed, author of People Like Us. Hashi came to the UK aged nine, a refugee from the Somali civil war. He attended some of the country's worst schools and was raised exclusively on state benefits. Yet today he is a successful barrister with an Oxford degree. In conversation with the BBC's Razia Iqbal, he looks back at his own experiences and asks what they can tell us about social mobility - or the lack of it - in Britain today. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/intelligencesquared. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Maybe 30 or 20 years ago a Saudi might have said I'm Muslim and I'm Arab and I'm Saudi

0:06.9

Now they might say I'm Saudi and I'm Arab and I'm Muslim

0:09.9

You know they're trying to radically refashion their country and they need help from the best experts in the world.

0:15.0

Do you want to have your country's people be disqualified from that because of some essentially antiquated point of view about how countries work together.

0:23.4

In recent months it can feel like Saudi Arabia is intent on buying the world.

0:27.8

It's bought up much of golf, sports teams, many of the globe's best soccer players to its

0:32.4

own domestic league, and it owns huge chunks of many of the biggest companies on the planet.

0:37.5

But Saudi Arabia is not just on a shopping spree.

0:40.5

The ones insular oil-rich Kingdom is transforming into a major diplomatic and military

0:46.0

player, a pivotal actor in the energy transition and looks set to post high-end cultural events

0:51.6

like the FIFA World Cup.

0:53.0

You know, they know that buying a football club immediately brings you a

0:57.2

billboard into a global game that allows you to completely reposition

1:01.9

yourself or rebrand yourself.

1:03.4

It feels like we're entering the era of the Saudi project.

1:06.6

But what exactly is the kingdom trying to achieve and will it succeed?

1:10.4

Coming soon from Intelligence Squared, the Saudi Project is a new podcast series seeking to answer some of these questions and more.

1:17.5

Britain does have choices. It's not either-or situation. We either indulge Mohammed bin Salman or boycott of Mohammed

1:26.2

bin Salman. There is a third choice.

1:28.8

Search the Saudi project wherever you get your podcasts.

1:36.0

Hello, I'm Daniel. Welcome to this episode of the Intelligence Square podcast.

1:39.0

In this episode we were joined by Hashi Mohammed,

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