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I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast Betrayal. Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to

fool everyone. Most of all, his wife Caroline. He texted, I've ruined our lives. You're going to want

to divorce me. How far would he go to cover up what he'd done?

The fact that you lied is absolutely horrific.

And quite frankly, I question how many other women are out there

that may bring forward allegations in the future.

Listen to betrayal on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts.

This week on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, Marin Morris is here.

You came out of a marriage. You came out of quote unquote country music.

And you had a huge growth spurt from what I can tell.

I was expanding and growing at a really fast pace.

And yes, you could throw motherhood and the postpartum thing, learning about myself.

There were a lot of like identity crises going on.

But I realized like I can't look back and slow down for people.

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