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And with that, please enjoy this week's episode. What's up, up up everybody? My guest on this episode of Hidden Forces is Matt Stoller.

Matt is the Director of Research at the American Economic Liberties Project, the author of Goliath,

a book about the history of monopoly power and the efforts by citizens and the government to

restrain it, and the publisher of Big, a newsletter which covers a wide range of issues

related to monopoly, corporate concentration, and regulation, which you can find at Matt Stoller dot Substack.com. I didn't start this week off with

the intention of having Matt on the program but I asked him to come on last

minute to discuss what I feel is an important series of events that occurred in the wake of the

storming of the U.S. Capitol building last week.

And this has to do with both the permanent banning of Donald Trump, the sitting US president from Facebook and Twitter,

as well as the banning of the social media company Parlor, from not only the iOS and Android App stores, but also from Amazon's own servers, which the company

was using to host its business and serve its customers.

I want to be absolutely clear here about something. The attack on the Capitol

Building last week was extremely alarming, explicitly because the president

encouraged it, not in spite of it.

So while our conversation today focuses on the second order effects of his incitements

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