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The Lawfare Podcast

Social Media Platforms and the Buffalo Shooting

The Lawfare Podcast

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4.76.2K Ratings

🗓️ 26 May 2022

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

On May 14, a shooter attacked a supermarket in a historically Black neighborhood of Buffalo, New York, killing ten people and wounding three. The streaming platform Twitch quickly disabled the livestream the shooter had published of the attack—but video of the violence, and copies of the white supremacist manifesto released by the attacker online, continue to circulate on the internet. 

How should we evaluate the response of social media platforms to the tragedy in Buffalo? This week on Arbiters of Truth, our series on the online information ecosystem, Evelyn Douek and Quinta Jurecic spoke with Brian Fishman, who formerly worked at Facebook, now Meta, as the policy director for counterterrorism and dangerous organizations. Brian helped lead Facebook’s response to the 2019 Christchurch shooting, another act of far-right violence livestreamed online. He walked us through how platforms respond to crises like these, why it’s so difficult to remove material like the Buffalo video and manifesto from the internet, and what it would look like for platforms to do better.

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The problem is, oftentimes the threat, the way that the threat manifests on your platform,

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is actually a function of the way that it's manifesting somewhere else on the internet.

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And I do not think that platforms systematically have developed the ability to understand that actual threat dynamic

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and then build it back into what they're doing on their own platform.

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I'm Quinted Jurassic, and this is the LawFair podcast, May 26, 2022.

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Today we're bringing you another episode of our Arbiters of Truth series on the online information ecosystem.

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On May 14th, a shooter attacked a supermarket in a historically black neighborhood of Buffalo, New York,

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killing 10 people and wounding three.

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The streaming platform Twitch quickly disabled the live stream that the shooter had published of the attack,

1:26.0

but video of the violence and copies of the white supremacist manifesto released by the attacker online,

1:32.0

continue to circulate on the internet.

1:36.0

How should we evaluate the response of social media platforms to the tragedy in Buffalo?

1:41.0

Evelyn Duac and I spoke with Brian Fishman, who worked formally at Facebook,

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now Metta, as the policy director for counterterrorism and dangerous organizations.

1:51.0

Brian helped to lead Facebook's response to the 2019 Christchurch shooting, another act of far-right violence live streamed online.

1:59.0

He walked us through how platforms respond to crises like these,

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