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The Brian Lehrer Show

Social Media and the Charlie Kirk Killing

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

Politics, News, News Commentary, Wnyc, Radio, Npr, Arts, New, Lerer, Media, Bryan, Nyc, Daily News, York, Public

4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 15 September 2025

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

Adam Clark Estes talks about how the lack of content moderation and algorithmic promotion led to the video of Charlie Kirk's assassination spreading quickly online.

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0:00.0

Brian Lairn on WNYC.

0:13.3

So the assassination of Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University last year was obviously

0:20.0

incredibly disturbing and horrible in its own right,

0:23.9

but also very disturbing was how quickly graphic footage of his final moment spread across

0:31.3

social media platforms. Just moments after Kirk was fatally shot in front of a live audience of

0:36.8

thousands, multiple videos

0:38.3

from various angles of the event, as many of you know, went viral on nearly every social media

0:44.3

platform. If you happen to be casually scrolling through X on Wednesday afternoon, you

0:50.4

are likely served the gory video unprompted amongst the mundane content that you typically

0:56.1

consume. That's just one example. We're not even singling out X here. This resulted in what some

1:02.6

are describing as a mass traumatic event that's raised urgent questions about content moderation

1:08.9

and our relationship with violence online.

1:12.2

While questions still remain about the shooter's motives and the long-term consequences

1:16.0

this act of political violence will have on the nation, like we were discussing in our previous

1:20.5

segment, we will look now at the ubiquity of violence on social media and specifically

1:26.0

how many children, among others, wound up seeing this

1:29.8

awful murder without the platforms doing anything preventative that arguably they could have done

1:35.4

without stifling free speech. We'll do this with Adam Clark S.D.'s Senior Technology correspondent

1:41.6

at Fox. Adam, thanks for joining us for this. Welcome to WNYC.

1:46.1

Thank you so much. How quickly did what go online and who saw it?

1:53.0

The videos went online immediately. I mean, the assassination happened in front of a crowd of people

2:00.0

who were already carrying smartphones,

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