This is a Headgun Podcast.

I don't know the truth.

I don't know the way.

I don't know what to think.

I don't know what to say.

Yeah, the guts of my heart.

Yeah, the guts of my heart.

I don't know anything.

Hello and welcome to Factually, I'm Adam Conover.

Thank you so much for joining me once again as I talk to an incredible expert about all the amazing things that they know that I don't know and that you might not know.

Both of our minds are going to get blown together and we're going to have so much fun doing it as we always do.

Now, as we've discussed on this show before, our criminal justice system is wildly discriminatory and destructive.

It punishes people of color at disproportionate rates.

A study a few years ago found that black men comprise about 13% of the male population, but nearly 35% of those incarcerated.

One third of black men born recently can expect to be incarcerated in their lifetime.

A third, but despite that astonishing rate of over-policing and over-incarceration, it seems to do nothing to prevent the fact that people of color are also the biggest victims of violence.

They're 22% more likely to experience violent crime than white people.

And as I've covered before on every TV show I have ever done and on this very podcast, despite decades of protest by those being most harmed, it feels like little in our criminal justice system has changed.

The problem seems to be intractable, somehow woven into the structure of American society.

So we end up using the most brutal tools to punish the most vulnerable people in America over and over again.

You could be forgiven for concluding that nothing can be done about it.

Well, guess what? Nothing could be further from the truth. Progress is possible.

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