So What Did We Learn About Romance Movies?
Hot and Bothered
Not Sorry Productions
4.8 • 62 Ratings
🗓️ 23 June 2026
⏱️ 16 minutes
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That's all folks! Season Five of Hot and Bothered, all about romance movies, has come to close. On today's episode, Vanessa shares her finals thoughts on the genre.
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| 0:00.0 | Today is the last day of our movie season of Hot and Bothered. We're so excited to move back to |
| 0:06.0 | Jane Austen to the classics. We are so excited to read Persuasion chapter by chapter with |
| 0:12.5 | Stephanie Paul Selle. And we'll miss Hannah McGregor and we'll miss talking about movies. |
| 0:19.1 | So I thought I would spend some time today discussing the things that I want to make sure to remember that I learned over the past two years. |
| 0:27.5 | I learned a lot talking about movies with Professor McGregor and the other experts I'd the pleasure of speaking to across this series. |
| 0:37.7 | I'm Vanessa Zoltan, and this is Hot and Bothered. The first thing I learned about romance movies is something we began to unpack in our very first interview with Professor Kathleen Carlin, |
| 1:10.6 | that romantic comedies are part of a deeply |
| 1:13.9 | conservative genre. Rom-coms can look progressive. They were often the first place where we |
| 1:21.5 | saw black characters and gay characters who weren't being stereotyped as house help or tragic. |
| 1:27.5 | But until recently, they were mostly only the best friends. characters who weren't being stereotyped as house help or tragic. |
| 1:33.3 | But until recently, they were mostly only the best friends, the side characters. |
| 1:39.6 | Romcoms also appear progressive in the middle section of the movie, the screwball section. |
| 1:50.4 | The things that keep the men and women in conflict in these movies tend to be some kind of upside-down world, where the strict rules of society get shaken up. |
| 1:54.6 | Baby and Johnny are together across class in dirty dancing. |
| 2:02.4 | Andy recklessly pursues career success in hijinks that get bigger and bigger in how to lose a guy in 10 days. |
| 2:06.9 | Jessica Stein questions her sexuality and explores being a lesbian. |
| 2:11.5 | But at the end of the day, baby and Johnny don't end up together. |
| 2:25.1 | Matthew McConaughey stops Andy from pursuing her dream job, calls her a coward so she stays in New York City, apparently unemployed, and Jessica Stein goes back to being straight. |
| 2:33.6 | There's a middle of these movies in which classes are crossed, and a woman dares to go after her dream job, and a woman explores her queerness. But the endings almost always |
| 2:36.3 | go back to a conservative version of themselves. The movies are arguing, don't worry, |
| 2:42.6 | cis-heterosexual love is going to make things go back to normal again. The second thing I learned. |
| 2:49.4 | Number two, these movies have trained women to self-commodify. |
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