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Deadline: White House

“So many crimes, so little time”

Deadline: White House

Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW

Politics, News, Ms Now, Msnbc, Daily News, The White House, Nicolle Wallace, Versant, Washington Dc, Government

4.56.4K Ratings

🗓️ 20 July 2023

⏱️ 90 minutes

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Summary

Nicolle Wallace discusses possible charges the ex-president may face if indicted in Special Counsel Jack Smith’s investigation into January 6th and election lies, the electoral implications of those possible charges as 2024 comes into focus, the GOP’s continued fealty to their former leader, Capitol Hill testimony from presidential candidate Robert Kennedy Jr. who has spread vaccine misinformation and anti-Semetic conspiracy theories, and more. Joined by: Tim Heaphy, Andrew Weissmann, Jackie Alemany, Derrick Johnson, Luke Broadwater, Carol Leonnig, Glenn Kirschner, Miles Taylor, Frank Figliuzzi, Delegate Stacey Plaskett, and Michael Tomasky.

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0:00.0

Hi, everyone. It's Borkhark in the East. Today, twin pillars coming into focus and what

0:08.8

is likely the final stage of Jack Smith's criminal investigation into Donald Trump's

0:13.8

role in plotting and trying to carry out a coup against his own government. The first

0:18.8

a Kaiser Sosa-like witness taking the stand before the grand jury hearing evidence in the

0:23.4

January 6 investigation. That witness, William Russell. He's a Trump staffer who was with

0:29.4

the ex-president on January 6. This is not his first appearance before the grand jury. The

0:34.8

New York Times reported back in September that he'd received a subpoena from the Justice

0:39.3

Department. So what does his appearance today mean? He's not even mentioned in the sweeping

0:45.4

final report by the January 6 select committee. But he does make a cameo in the January 6 public

0:52.0

hearings when the committee showed this photo of Donald Trump speaking to his then chief

0:57.1

of staff, Mark Meadows. So that's Russell on the other side of them. This is just before

1:01.7

Trump delivered a speech to thousands of his supporters. Many of them armed to the teeth,

1:07.2

urging them to march to the U.S. Capitol and quote, fight like hell and promising to go with them.

1:13.0

Here's what Kessie Hutchinson told the January 6 select committee about what was happening in that

1:17.8

moment. When we were in the off stage announced tent, I was part of a conversation. I was in the

1:25.1

vicinity of a conversation where I overheard the president say something's the effect of,

1:29.5

you know, I don't I think they have weapons. They're not here to hurt me. Take the effing mags away.

1:35.7

Let my people in. They can march the Capitol from here. Let the people in. Take the effing mags away.

1:42.3

The second dramatic development today, a veritable plot twist in that target letter sent to Donald

1:48.0

Trump by Jacksonous team. Charlie Savage of the New York Times mentioned it on this program

1:52.7

yesterday, but today we are learning more from his reporting in the New York Times. Quote,

1:56.9

the letter to Mr. Trump from the special counsel Jack Smith referred to three criminal statutes as

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