So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

The Bill Simmons Podcast

The Ringer

Sports

4.4 • 30.2K Ratings

🗓️ 13 January 2026

⏱️ 139 minutes

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The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal to recap the Texans taking down the Steelers to wrap up the wild-card round before previewing the Texans-Patriots matchup (1:52). Then, Chuck Klosterman joins the pod to talk about his new book, ‘Football,’ and the evolution of humans' relationship to the sport (35:44). Host: Bill Simmons Guests: Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman Producers: Chia Hao Tat and Eduardo Ocampo The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit⁠⁠⁠ www.rg-help.com⁠⁠⁠ to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:53.3	Coming up on this podcast
0:54.6	cousin Sal and I are going to talk about the Steelers Texans game the end of Aaron
0:57.7	Rogers career what this means for the Patriots this weekend and a whole bunch of
1:02.7	football subplots and then BS podcast Hall famer Chuck Closterman is here and we're
1:07.6	going to have a wide-ranging really fun conversation about 100 years of football.
1:13.1	It's all next. We're going to take a break and then Cousin South. The Bill Simmons podcast is presented
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