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Deep Cover Presents: Snowball

Snowball - Episode 3: The Coconut Wireless

Deep Cover Presents: Snowball

Pushkin Industries

True Crime, History

4.33.8K Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

The stories Lezlie Manukian has told people about her time in Hawaii usually end with murderous local mobsters running her off the island. But this is also coming from the tall tale telling Californian trickster we've heard can even swindle a bank. When Lezlie left New Zealand, never to be seen again, it seemed like the only way for Greg Wards to understand who he really married was to ask the Hawaiian police what really happened.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hey, it's Jake. What are you doing on December 19th?

0:07.8

Because I have an invitation for you. Join us for Deep Cover's special live event. It's in Boston

0:14.6

at WBUR's City Space. My season six co-host, Jess McHugh, will be joining me to talk about the truth about Sarah.

0:24.3

We'll share never-before-heard audio, give updates on what's happened in our story since our season

0:30.0

ended, and we'll answer questions from the audience. Plus, in the spirit of the season,

0:35.1

we'll highlight some organizations that are doing great work with veterans

0:39.1

so people can give in real time.

0:42.1

I'm excited, and I hope you'll join us.

0:44.3

Get tickets at WBUR.org slash events. Pushkin.

0:58.1

Hey, it's Jake. Before we get into this episode, I want to let you know that you can hear more ad-free episodes from Snowball before they're released to the public by signing up for Pushkin Plus.

1:11.8

In addition to supporting narrative storytelling,

1:14.7

you'll also get bonus episodes, full audiobooks,

1:17.9

and binges from your favorite Pushkin hosts and authors.

1:21.8

Find Pushkin Plus on the Deepcover show page on Apple Podcasts

1:26.1

or at Pushkin.fm slash plus. Let's get into it.

1:32.0

This episode contains occasional course language.

1:37.4

The first thing about Leslie Minookian that caught my brother's attention was her American

1:42.4

accent. The second thing my Americanophile brother was attracted to

1:47.1

was Leslie's wild story about why she left Hawaii.

1:51.6

Some bad people in Hawaii were trying to attack her, you know,

1:54.8

because they'd frauded her and were trying to do bad stuff to her,

1:59.0

and her mum and dad sent her to Europe

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