Hi folks, it's Rick Wilson, and welcome to The Daily Beast's The New Abnormal.

Hi, I'm Molly Jongfast, a left-wing pundit and editor-at-large at The Daily Beast.

I'm also an editor at The Daily Beast, a former Republican political strategist, best-selling author, and full-time troublemaker.

We're here to have fun, sharp conversations with some of the smartest people in media, politics, business,

and science that help make what's happening in the country and the world clearer.

I'll try to keep Rick to the minimum number of F-bombs and try to keep our kids, pets, and other

wildlife sounds from invading our respective bunkers.

Matt Wilstein is the senior writer for The Daily Beast covering the

intersection between politics and pop culture, as well as the host of the Daily Beast, The Last Laugh

podcast. Hi, Matt Willsstein. Hi, Molly. How's it going? You know, trying not to die. It's good.

Can I say that on the podcast? Yes, I can say that on the podcast. We're all trying not to die. It's good. Can I say that on the podcast? Yes, I can say that on the podcast.

We're all trying not to die. Yes. Everyone's trying not to die every day. That's right. That's what

it's all about. So talk to me about political comedy. It's been a year, hasn't it, for everything,

but for political comedy, absolutely. I mean, I spent a lot of my time at The Daily Beast

watching and writing about and interviewing people who do political comedy, whether it's the

late night shows or, you know, really anything. But it's just, it's been a, it's been a pretty

crazy year, but I think the one thing that's really like stood out to me above everything else

is this like kind of new

ish form of aggressive confrontational political comedy that that's come out this year and you know

thinking about borat obviously is sort of like the big one which i know you you quite enjoyed the

the borat uh sequel right i love him and I love that he targeted Michael, well, really Rudy Giuliani, but also Michael

Penis.

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