Snape's True Colors (OOTP Chapter 24, Occlumency)

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🗓️ 29 April 2025

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Help MuggleCast grow! Become a MuggleCast Member and get great benefits like Bonus MuggleCast! On this week's edition we discuss the best use of 8 hours to tell the story of the first season of the upcoming TV show! Patreon.com/MuggleCast Grab official merch! MuggleCastMerch.com Pick up overstock merch from years past, including our 19th Anniversary Shirt! MuggleMillennial.Etsy.com On this week's episode, clear your minds because you don't want Professor Snape seeing *that* memory! Am I right? Join Andrew, Micah, Laura and Nicole as they say goodbye to Sirius, ride The Knight Bus back to Hogwarts and endure one of Harry's most grueling lessons in the entire Potter series. Welcome Slug Club member, Nicole! Chapter-by-Chapter continues with Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, Chapter 24: Occlumency. MuggleCast last discussed this chapter on Episode 461! For the first time ever, Harry is not looking forward to going back to Hogwarts. And he’s about to get another reason to dread it even more! Harry seems to have a sixth sense as it relates to Kreacher. Should he have shared his suspicions with someone else in the Order? Showdown at Grimmauld Place: Snape and Sirius are bickering like exes! Why does Sirius refer to Snape as Lucius’ lapdog? Foreshadow Alert: Sirius' Grim Goodbye & The Two-Way Mirror We discuss how there is SO MUCH wrong with Harry's Occlumency lessons! Given that Snape has spent years closing off his mind to Voldemort, is he the most qualified to teach Harry Occlumency? Should there have been a third party mediator? Ruh Roh! What if Voldemort penetrated Harry’s mind and saw Snape teaching him Occlumency? Exactly which memories does Snape removing from his mind? Do these lessons actually weaken Harry's mental and physical state of being? We compare the mental capacity needed to cast a Patronus to that required to perform Occlumency The Big Snape Reveal: did he just show the reader his true colors? What does Voldemort actually know about his connection Harry? Odds & Ends cover Connecting The Threads between Prisoner of Azkaban and Order of the Phoenix, The Knight Bus, Madam Marsh, the Department of Mysteries and more! Most Impressive Dig of the Week: Snape or Sirius? Lynx Line: What could possibly make Voldemort the happiest he’s ever been? Wrong answers only. Quizzitch: What part of the human brain, in addition to aiding cognitive functions like attention and planning, is also involved with the storing of long-term memories? On Bonus MuggleCast, it's time to MAX THAT! The hosts deep dive into some of the scenes they'd most like to see adapted for the new TV show that didn't make it into the Order of the Phoenix movie! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to Mugglecast, your weekly ride into the world of Harry Potter. I'm Andrew. I'm Micah. I'm
0:05.8	Laura. We are your Harry Potter friends talking about the books, the movies, the theme parks, the
0:11.5	forthcoming TV show. So make sure you follow our show in your favorite podcast app so you never miss
0:17.7	a new episode. And this week we'll be discussing Order the Phoenix
0:21.5	Chapter 24, Occlomancy. And to help us with today's discussion, we're joined by one of our
0:28.4	listeners and Slug Club patrons, Nicole. Welcome, Nicole, to the show. Thanks for having me. Yeah,
0:34.7	you're welcome. Can we get your fandom ID? Sure thing. So, favorite book is a tie
0:39.6	between Prisoner of Ascaband and Order the Phoenix. Favorite movie, I have Gobble to Fire right now,
0:45.8	because we just did a rewatch of that one. Hogwarts House is Slytherin, and Petronus was a pheasant.
0:53.7	And for my favorite portrait, I said Sir Cadigan,
0:57.0	because we get to see him three times. So that's fun.
0:59.9	Gets a lot of attention. Yeah. Well, I'm glad we have you on while we're going chapter by
1:05.1	chapter through one of your favorite books. I'm excited. So, yeah, thanks again for joining us.
1:10.0	And thanks for your support on
1:11.0	Patreon. We really appreciate it. We actually were in a Slug Club hangout on our Patreon the other day
1:16.2	when I was looking at upcoming co-host and you were next in the queue. So for the first time ever,
1:21.0	I was like, live on Zoom, I was like, Nicole, you want to come on this week? And she was like,
1:25.7	yeah, perfect time. Heck, yeah.
1:28.9	Well, listeners, if you love Mugglecasts too and want to help us keep things running as smoothly as the night bus on a countryside road, I don't know if that works, Micah, but visit patreon.com slash Mugglecast and pledge today.
1:43.6	You'll get instant access to two bonus
1:45.8	mugglecast episodes every month, plus ad-free episodes of mugglecast, a new physical gift every year,
1:51.3	the chance to co-host the show one day like Nicole is today, and so much more. We could not do
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