SNAP Judgments

The Drill Down with Peter Schweizer

Government Accountability Institute

News Commentary, News, Daily News, Politics

4.9 • 627 Ratings

🗓️ 5 November 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

During the government shutdown, Agriculture Secretary Brook Rollins has been reviewing data from 29 states administering the food stamp program. Rollins’s review has found EBT cards that have been carrying balances of more than $10,000. It found cards that haven’t been used in years. It found cards issued to people who never existed. Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), as food stamps are formally known, has been around since the 1930s but ballooned during the Biden administration years and now serves 42 million people in the US, one-eighth of the population. What’s happening? Is the program running efficiently and properly? Will the shutdown really “starve children” as the Trump administration’s critics are charging?Joining host Eric Eggers on The Drill Down podcast is returning guest Andrew McClenahan from the United Council on Welfare Fraud. McClenahan’s organization represents state-level investigators of welfare fraud. And it turns out there is a lot of it to investigate.

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0:00.0	Research that resonates.
0:05.0	He's the president of the Government Accountability Institute, Peter Switzer.
0:09.0	Peter Schweitzer. Peter Schweitzer. Peter Schweitzer has spent many years.
0:15.0	In fact, probably done a more comprehensive job than anyone's ever done,
0:18.0	chronicling the corruption by the powerful in Washington. Be very prescient Eric Eggers.
0:22.6	Join me right now is Government Accountability Institute Research Director, Eric Eggers.
0:27.6	We're going to take information that we've learned that people like Peter Schweitzer have uncovered,
0:31.6	and we're going to try to go further.
0:34.6	Great investigative reporting, Peter. You're the only one doing it. Thank God.
0:38.3	Eric Eggers from the Government Accountability Institute and co-hosts of that great podcast, The Drilled Down with Peter Schweitzer.
0:45.3	This is The Drill Down with Peter Schweitzer.
0:49.3	Hello and welcome back to another episode of The Drill Down with Peter Schweitzer, as you may have guessed,
0:55.0	I am not Peter Schweitzer.
0:57.2	Unfortunately, one of the very real consequences of the government being shut down is
1:01.5	Peter Schweitzer doesn't get paid by the federal government anymore.
1:04.5	He's not here.
1:05.6	No, that's not true.
1:06.4	He's out sick, unfortunately.
1:08.1	But in his place is an excellent person to be discussing things connected
1:14.4	to the federal government shutdown. There's a lot of different aspects and ramifications of this.
1:20.2	And as we predicted some time ago, we said, look, we think this thing could last weeks.
1:24.6	We had signals of this. J.D. Vance is using the phrase weeks. And we talked
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