SN 1082: The Malicious Use of AI - Anthropic's Red Team Report
Security Now (Audio)
Leo Laporte
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🗓️ 9 June 2026
⏱️ 158 minutes
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Summary
Discover how Anthropic's secretive red team and the MITRE ATT&CK framework are mapping the chilling rise of malicious AI use, revealing cyber threats that now move faster than defenders can respond.
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- What Anthropic learns from their past year of Claude abuse: It's bad
Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-1082-Notes.pdf
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| 0:00.0 | It's time for security now. Steve Gibson is here. This is a big day. Anthropic just released a new |
| 0:06.6 | version of its AI, the Fable Model. It's appropriate because we're going to talk about how |
| 0:14.0 | what Anthropic has learned from years of abuse of their A-My models. We'll also talk about the malicious use of AI, some really |
| 0:23.3 | scary examples, and which U.S. law firm paid a $20 million ransom to ransomware authors, |
| 0:31.7 | and why? That and a whole lot more coming up next on Security Now. |
| 0:38.8 | Podcasts you love. |
| 0:40.6 | From people you trust. |
| 0:43.1 | This is Twit. |
| 0:48.6 | This is Security Now with Steve Gibson. |
| 0:51.4 | Episode 182, recorded Tuesday, June 9th, 2026, the malicious use of AI. |
| 0:59.6 | It's time for security now. The show we cover the latest security and privacy and a little bit of |
| 1:05.1 | AI in here with this guy right here, Mr. Steve Gibson, the guy in charge at gRC.com. |
| 1:12.6 | Hello, Steve. |
| 1:14.4 | Hello, my friend. |
| 1:15.7 | Great to be. |
| 1:16.3 | Oh, that's very, that's right. |
| 1:17.7 | I do that live long and prosper thing. |
| 1:18.9 | Great to be with you again. |
| 1:22.2 | So, for a long time, we've been saying, predicting, it was a prediction, but not like any great stretch |
| 1:36.9 | of imagination, that the bad guys would be using AI just like the good guys are. |
| 1:45.0 | And in fact, |
| 1:45.5 | the reason that Anthropic did its sort of semi-controversial, |
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