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SN 1074: What Mythos Means - Marketing or Mayhem

Security Now (Audio)

Leo Laporte

Twit, Steve Gibson, Leo Laporte, Hacking, Technology, Cyber Crime, Malware, Security, Encryption, Spyware

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 14 April 2026

⏱️ 171 minutes

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Summary

We may already be living through the most consequential hundred days in cyber history, and the arrival of AI that can autonomously chain zero-day vulnerabilities into working exploits means the software industry's long-standing "ship it and patch it later" era is officially over.

Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-1074-Notes.pdf

Hosts: Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte

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Transcript

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0:00.0

It's time for security now. Steve Gibson is here. We do have a very funny picture of the week,

0:04.3

but the meat of the show really is this new model from Anthropic Claude's mythos.

0:11.8

They say it's too dangerous to release. It's certainly found a lot of security flaws,

0:16.9

but is it marketing hype or really a model that is much better than ever before? Steve

0:22.8

breaks it down for you next on Security Now.

0:28.2

Podcasts you love from people you trust.

0:32.4

This is Twitter.

0:37.8

This is Security Now with Steve Gibson, episode 1774, recorded Tuesday, April 14th,

0:44.8

2026. What Mythos means. It's time for security now. Steve Gibson's here, and we've got a lot

0:53.5

to talk about. When do we not have a lot to talk about? Steve Gibson. Good to see you again. Welcome.

1:00.1

Actually, we have a lot to talk about. I think you and I will be doing a lot of discussing, but it's been a long time since a one of our shows was basically,

1:14.0

essentially dedicated to one thing.

1:17.0

I'm so excited about this show.

1:20.9

I've, well, the topic of today's show, the title is what mythos means and the I want to talk about

1:33.2

mythos in particular because you know I've seen the skeptics posting online and

1:38.8

the cynics and we should explain this is a new model from Anthropic which is one of

1:43.9

the frontier AI companies, a model so good, they say they don't want to release to the public because it's too dangerous.

1:54.0

Okay. And I get people rolling their eyes, but because that happens to be, it plays into my own narrative,

2:06.1

I'm thinking, okay, that's interesting. So I spent some time to really dig in. And the thing I want to make clear is that mythos is only first.

2:24.1

And for what it's worth, given some things we have seen, and we'll talk about that,

2:31.3

I am very glad that a USAI leader is first. But I'm not fooling myself

2:41.1

thinking that they have any secret sauce that China isn't going to quickly catch up with. I mean,

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