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SN 1041: Covering All the Bases - SHAKEN Networks, Uncontrollable AI, and Robocall Reckoning

Security Now (Audio)

Leo Laporte

Cyber Crime, Malware, Technology, Encryption, Steve Gibson, Security, Hacking, Twit, Spyware, Leo Laporte

4.62.1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 September 2025

⏱️ 184 minutes

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Summary

When even the Department of Defense can't properly vet its software dependencies, what chance do the rest of us have? Steve Gibson reveals how "fast-glob" became a case study in supply chain blindness, explores whether AI can ever truly be controlled after Meta's celebrity chatbot disaster, and celebrates BYTE Magazine's 50th anniversary with a look at how far we've come (and how vulnerable we still are).

  • A look back at issue #1 of BYTE magazine exactly 50 years ago
  • The enforcement of the SHAKEN & STIR Telecom protocols
  • Breaking: Judge rules against forced Google divestitures in monopoly case
  • The inherent danger of consolidating authentication
  • Can AI be controlled?
  • Vivaldi says a big "no" to AI-enhanced web browsers
  • How WhatsApp figured into Apple's recent 0-day attacks
  • Leveraging AI as an attack aid
  • The latest TransUnion data breach
  • Two scummy websites sue the UK over age requirements
  • OpenSSH reminds its users to adopt post-quantum crypto
  • The DOD uses open source maintained by a Russian national
  • Much great feedback from our terrific listeners
  • Sci-Fi news from "The Frontiers Saga" Ryk Brown

Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/sn-1041-notes.pdf

Hosts: Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte

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0:00.0

It's time for Security Now. I know you look forward to it. It's a listener question episode. Yes,

0:06.4

we'll cover some of the news, including breaking news about the Google Monopoly lawsuit and a big birthday celebration and a very positive review from a few years back.

0:19.1

Steve will celebrate next on Security Now.

0:24.2

Podcasts you love.

0:26.1

From people you trust.

0:28.6

This is Twitter.

0:34.0

This is Security Now with Steve Gibson, episode 141, recorded Tuesday, September 2nd, 2025, covering all the bases.

0:45.8

It's time for security now, the show, we protect you. Well, I don't do anything. I sit here and listen while Steve Gibson protects you and your hardware, your software,

0:56.3

and your internet and your privacy and all that stuff, the man of the hour, Mr. Steve Gibson. Hi,

1:01.1

Steve. Hi, Leo. It's great to be with you. Okay. So, yes, and I don't protect everyone. I do

1:07.7

what I can to help everybody protect themselves. You give us the information we need to do it for

1:11.8

ourselves, which is the best, yes. We have a great podcast. I know I've been saying that a lot

1:20.3

lately. I think they maybe have been a little better than usual. I think after, you know,

1:25.4

the first thousand, as I've said, we kind of have the hang of it.

1:29.0

No big news overwhelmed the week. So I also, so I wanted to take the opportunity to spend a little

1:36.9

more time than I have been recently with our listeners' feedback. So about half of the podcast is that,

1:43.2

because there was so much interesting good stuff.

1:46.0

Some some corrections of things I had said before, some additional information on topic.

1:52.7

So lots of good stuff there. Also some interesting news and one big event that I thought

1:59.8

would be fun to spend a little time on, which is

2:02.3

the picture of the week event.

2:05.4

So as a consequence, I just called this podcast number 141 covering all the bases since it's

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