SN 1029: The Illusion of Thinking - Meta Apps and JavaScript Collusion

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Leo Laporte

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🗓️ 10 June 2025

⏱️ 167 minutes

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Summary

In memoriam: Bill Atkinson
Meta native apps & JavaScript collude for a localhost local mess.
The EU rolls out its own DNS4EU filtered DNS service.
Ukraine DDoS's Russia's Railway DNS ... and... so what?
The Linux Foundation creates an alternative Wordpress package manager.
Court tells OpenAI it must NOT delete ANYONE's chats. Period! :(
A CVSS 10.0 in Erlang/OTP's SSH library.
Can Russia intercept Telegram? Perhaps.
Spain's ISPs mistakenly block Google sites.
Reddit sues Anthropic.
Twitter's new encrypted DM's are as lame as the old ones.
The Login.gov site may not have any backups.
Apple explores the question of recent Large Reasoning Models "thinking"

Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-1029-Notes.pdf

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0:00.0	It's time for security now. Steve Gibson is here. We're going to talk about an Apple research paper
0:04.4	that explores whether these new large reasoning models are really doing any thinking. I'll give you a hint.
0:12.3	They're not. Goodbye to Bill Atkinson. And then, what is the Linux Foundation's response to the WordPress kerfuffle?
0:20.9	All that and more.
0:21.6	Coming up next on Security Now.
0:26.1	Podcasts you love.
0:27.9	From people you trust.
0:30.4	This is Twitter.
0:35.9	This is Security Now with Steve Gibson, episode 1029, recorded Tuesday, June 10th, 2025,
0:44.4	The Illusion of Thinking.
0:46.9	It's time for security now, the show where we cover your security, privacy, and everything else,
0:52.6	frankly, we're going to do AI today with this guy right here.
0:55.7	He's the king of the hill as far as security comes.
0:59.5	Frankly, as far as geekiness goes, Mr. Steve Gibson.
1:03.3	Hello, Steve.
1:04.5	Hello, Leo.
1:06.1	Great to be with you again.
1:07.5	Nothing is more geeky than the clock with the milliseconds behind me now.
1:11.3	Show everybody. Let's just take 50 minutes to discuss this.
1:16.3	No, we already did it on a Mac break.
1:17.6	Show us how it's a clapper. We need to see the clapper.
1:20.2	It's a clapper. It's all this stuff. It's really, I think it's very cool. This is the new
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