SN 1025: Secure Conversation Records Retention - FBI Says to Toss Your Old Router

Security Now (Audio)

Leo Laporte

Cyber Crime, Malware, Technology, Encryption, Steve Gibson, Security, Hacking, Twit, Spyware, Leo Laporte

4.6 • 2.1K Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2025

⏱️ 164 minutes

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Summary

The state of Virginia passes an age-restriction law that has no chance.
New Zealand also tries something similar, citing Australia's lead.
A nasty Python package for Discord survived 3 years and 11K downloads.
The FBI says it's a good idea to discard end-of-life consumer routers.
What's in WhatsApp? Finding out was neither easy nor certain.
The UK's Cyber Centre says AI promises to make things much worse.
A bunch of great feedback from our great listeners, then:
Is true end-to-end encryption possible when records must be retained?

Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-1025-Notes.pdf

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0:00.0	It's time for security now. Steve Kipson is here. We've got a lot of security news. The state of
0:06.4	Virginia passes an age restriction law that Steve says there's no chance of surviving a First
0:12.8	Amendment challenge. There is a nasty pie pie package that has survived for three years and 11,000
0:20.1	downloads.
0:21.7	Isn't anybody paying attention?
0:23.5	And then Steve has a solution for government agencies
0:27.5	that want to use signal without letting the whole world know
0:31.4	what they're talking about.
0:32.4	All of that and more.
0:33.1	Coming up next, on security now.
0:37.7	Podcasts you love.
0:39.3	From people you trust.
0:42.2	This is Twitter.
0:47.5	This is Security Now with Steve Gibson, episode 1025, recorded Tuesday, May 13th, 20205.
0:56.2	Secure Conversation Records Retention
0:58.8	It's time for security now, the show we cover their security, your privacy, your safety
1:03.9	online with a guy in charge at GRC.com, Mr. Steve Gibson.
1:09.0	Hello, Steve!
1:10.2	I have never been accused of talking quietly leo
1:14.5	it's never been anything that has happened my wife has extremely sensitive ears and she she talks
1:22.1	to the other room and assumes i can hear her she can hear me so it's not reciprocal, but, you know.
1:27.8	This is a, you know, this is generally a couple problem.
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