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Smuggling Works into Faith (with Mike Abendroth)

Theocast

Theocast INC

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, Spirituality

4.9860 Ratings

🗓️ 21 September 2022

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Jon and Justin are joined by Mike Abendroth, pastor of Bethlehem Bible Church and host of No Compromise Radio. The guys have a conversation about faith--and, in particular, how works are often smuggled into faith in the evangelical church. How do we appropriately define saving faith? How do we understand the relationship between faith and works? Why is it that obedience, love, and good works are regularly woven into the definition of faith? Semper Reformanda: Jon, Justin, and Mike talk more pointedly about Federal Vision, Lordship Salvation, final justification, and biblicism. What do all of these have in common? They all, in various ways, smuggle works into faith. Resources: No Compromise Radio Hosts What is the Law? Our episode: “Intro to Law and Gospel Distinction” Our episode: “Why I Left Lordship Salvation” Mike Abendroth’s Article: “My Pilgrimage from ‘Lordship’ to Law/Gospel” Our episode: “Do John Piper and Doug Wilson Obscure Faith Alone?” Mike Abendroth’s Book: “Gospel Assurance” Our episode: “A Critique of Lordship Salvation - Part 2” Mike Abendroth’s “Law & Gospel” Series on American Gospel

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0:00.0

Hi, this is John, and today on Theocast, Justin and I have a very important conversation

0:09.3

about how works get smuggled into the gospel, specifically faith, and what is faith?

0:17.1

And if we aren't defining faith correctly, we can all say the same thing.

0:20.3

I believe in salvation by faith alone, but if faith aren't defining faith correctly, we can all say the same thing. I believe in

0:21.1

salvation by faith alone. But if faith, your definition of faith has works in it, then you are not

0:26.7

saved by faith alone. On the podcast with us today, we have Mike Avondrawl. He'll learn who that is.

0:32.9

He is a dear friend, an amazing pastor. You will definitely enjoy this episode. Stay tuned.

0:38.6

If you'd like to help support Theocast, you can do that by leaving us a review on iTunes

0:42.9

and subscribing on your favorite podcast app. You can also follow us on Instagram,

0:47.7

Twitter, and Facebook. Plus, we have a Facebook group if you'd like to join the conversation

0:51.9

there. Thanks for listening.

1:10.7

Welcome to Theocast, encouraging weary pilgrims to rest in Christ conversations about the Christian life from a reformed pastoral and confessional perspective.

1:15.8

Your host today are Justin Burdue, pastor of Covenant Baptist Church in Asheville, North Carolina,

1:20.8

and I am John Moffitt, pastor of Grace Reform Church in Spring Hill, Tennessee.

1:26.2

And if you've already hit that skip button, you have already missed out

1:30.0

where Justin and I live. Back up. How dare you not know where we live? I'm just kidding.

1:34.8

It is a joy today. For those of you in the title who have already seen the podcast, we have a guest

1:39.6

on our podcast that we've been wanting to have on here for so long. Pastor Mike Abendroth, for those of you that may not know who he is,

1:46.4

I'm excited to introduce you to not only his preaching, but his podcast.

1:50.6

So for those of you that I may not know, Mike, who's a very good friend of mine,

1:54.2

I'm pretty sure there's not a week that goes by that we don't talk on the phone,

1:57.4

which is one of my great joys. But Mike has been the pastor of Bethlehem Bible Church

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