Oh, hey, it's your friend who's at the mall and texts you photos of jeans that cannot possibly be the new thing.

Please tell me how he's sort of a no-pockets isn't a thing. Please alleyward back with another episode of

Ovalogies, we're just leaning into this season. Crunchy leaves, wood smoke,

scarves, glowy little lights in the darkness. This episode,

pumpkins. Oh, pumpkins. This is an amazing episode and this is also small-ages. So small-ages are shorter episodes of

Classics and this is one of our best. But we've edited them down so that there are no spare words and also said that they're just shorter,

they're class and friendly, they're kid friendly, they're the whole family friendly. So enjoy this

small-ages version of pumpkins.

If pumpkins were a person, I'd be down to be the roommate. They seem chill,

they seem friendly, they seem down for a good time. Like they would come in clutch with a pep talk when you need it.

Cucurptology. Okay, what in the David S. Pumpkins is this word?

David Pumpkins? I mean, are we supposed to know who that is?

I know you have questions. Okay, I looked it up. Cucurptology comes from the Latin for Gord

and yes, Cucurptology looks like cucumbers because they're related. We're gonna get into that later.

But also, I'd like to note that the word pumpkin comes from the French for pom-pom which came in a winding

viney way from the Greek pepo which means to be cooked by the sun. Genius and species of most

pumpkins, Cucurbita, pepo. A gourd that's been cooked in the sun. So I was looking for a pumpkin

expert or someone who studies pumpkins or a pumpkin scholar, but not just the science of pumpkins,

but also the emotions and the folklore and the history and I came across a book entitled

pumpkin pumpkin folklore history planting hints and good eating by someone who loves pumpkins so

much she studied them intensely and wrote a book about them. We chatted about what is a pumpkin?

How long have we been carving them up and cooking them down? How many varieties are there? What

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