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I'm Rebecca LaVoy, and this is Crime Writers On.

Crime Writers On is the original True Crime Review podcast that digs into true crime,

pop culture, other podcasts.

And on this episode, an ambitious investigator displays an uncanny knack for solving arsons.

His partner suspects he's the one setting the fires.

We'll review Smoke from Apple TV Plus. Joining me to get that done and more is True Crime Author, TV journalist, and host of. These are their stories podcast, my husband, I love of my life. Kevin Flynn. Hello, Kevin. Hello, Rebecca. Also with us, private investigator, certified pet detective, resident cat lady and author of the final curtain, Laura Bricker. Hi, Laura. Hey, Rebecca. And finally, our Captain of All Things Cynical, author of the City Trilogy of Novels, host of Rip Current, Strange Arrivals, and our Patreon Deep Die Book Club podcast, Toby Ball. Hi, Toby. Hey, Rebecca. So, Kevin. Yes. This is a summer program, so it's Monday. It is.

What's coming up on our next editions of Crime Writers on? Yeah, next week we're going to be talking about the buzzy Netflix hit The Hunting Wives. It's like the number one thing on Netflix as we're taping this. Mm-hmm, yeah. So, Kevin, I have to thank you for something. What do you have to thank me for? As we are taping this, last night was the release of the two plus hour Taylor Swift interview on New Heights podcast.

Yeah, everyone's excited.

And I have made you watch so many clips of it.

And you have been so patient and I super appreciate it.

Oh, well, that patience is running out.

Well, it was good. I'm just saying, as Jason Kelsey turns out to be a surprisingly good interviewer. And it was very illuminating. And if you are... Did he ask when the wedding's going to be? No, but there were a lot of non-Taylor Swift fans in the chat who were loving it. A lot of those brads and chads who were loving it. Even Gordon Ramsey popped into the chat. You know what the best part was? What? This is the only part I've seen, but is when Travis Kelsey admits that he just learned that the title of the book is Alice in Wonderland. That's from a different interview. Oh, it is? Oh, fuck. Anyway. Did you see this? Allison Wonderland. He thought it was called Allison Wonderland. Allison Wonderland. He's apparently, if you've read the GQ piece about him, he's apparently extremely bright, but not great with books. Like, that's not his thing. But he's apparently very, very bright in other ways. Not good with books. Well, it's just not. Very bright in other ways. Yeah, no, he is. Apparently he was like a little kid genius, but they didn't do well in school. Like he has some like issues with the words. Uh, but he was very bright and articulate and lovely on the podcast and he certainly loves Taylor a lot. And I appreciate a guy who worship his woman. So, thank you, Kevin. Yeah, I don't know any guys that worship their women.

All right, should we talk about the thing we're going to be talking about? Well, I worship you so much

that I'm going to say yes. All right. Leading off.

Fire doesn't give a shit if you're gorgeous. How many followers you have, what clothes you're wearing.

Because those clothes are going to burn straight through the flesh into the marrow.

Fire investigator Dave Goodson is assigned a new partner to help capture two arsonists.

One has been setting fires with milk

jugs filled with gasoline and grease. The other has been taunting officials with a delayed

ignition device that's burning grocery stores. Someone out there likes to set one fire like this,

another one somewhere else on a time delay to spread our department thing.

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