Hey, this is Annie.

And Samantha.

And welcome to Steph One Never Told You, a production of IHeartRadio.

And today we are bringing you part two of our interview with Dr. Gina Stom, who specializes in all things intersectional feminism in France.

And before we get into this, quick correction, Gina wanted you to know we misspoke in the last episode, and she has not written any books yet.

She's written articles and academic journals and chapters in edited collections, but no books,

again, yet. But still, a lot to dig into in the works that she has done. If you didn't hear part one,

go back and listen to that because it's really gives so much context and it's really a good

foundation for what we're going to be talking about in this episode where we break down a lot of

the current issues around women in France right now.

So if you haven't listened to that yet, go listen to that and then come back.

But if you have listened, then let's get into the interview.

Okay, so we're talking, wow, we're getting so much.

It's going to take me like the rest of the day to chew on all of this information I'm learning because again, I'm like French culture is not my forte. It's not something that I've studied specifically. Language, obviously not. As I said, I need a lot of note cards and help. But with all of that, there's some big conversations that are happening around women and

feminism in France right now, right? Can you kind of give us an overview of the public discourse

around some of that? Yeah. So I'll try to do this as efficiently as possible, and I'm going to

leave stuff out. But, well, so I do want to address

abortion really quickly. There's been this, so it wound up in the Constitution after a couple of

attempts. And this is prime, the push for this primarily came after Roe v. Wade was overturned in the U.S., and also after

there started to be calls on the far right for limitations on it.

And so there was this fear.

They were like, if Trump can happen in America, it could happen here and needs to go in

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