SMNTY Classics: Black Swan and the Horror of Perfectionism
Stuff Mom Never Told You
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4.0 • 4.6K Ratings
🗓️ 20 April 2026
⏱️ 47 minutes
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What's the cost of being perfect? Of losing yourself in the name of performance? Why do we applaud women's pain? The film Black Swan sets the stage for a conversation around the line between art and life, toxic mother-daughter relationships, mental health, symbolism, doppelgangers, ageism, orgasms, and the dangers of perfectionism. We discuss in this classic episode.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an IHeart podcast. |
| 0:02.6 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:09.2 | Hey, this is Annie. |
| 0:10.5 | And Samantha. |
| 0:11.3 | And welcome to Steph One Ever Told You, a production of IHeart Radio. |
| 0:40.5 | And welcome to another classic. For this one before we get into it, I remember somebody called in about it and said I should have given a content warning for disordered eating. So I'm going to put that here now. One of the reasons that this episode, which is about Black Swan and perfectionism, was on our mind, was after our conversation |
| 0:46.9 | about things like OZempic, feeling that pressure to be, quote, perfect in the way society tells you, you are supposed to be. |
| 1:00.3 | And when that's harmful for you, I have to say, after we did that episode about Ozempic and We go via and that kind of stuff |
| 1:11.5 | I was hanging out with two people |
| 1:14.3 | who have taken |
| 1:17.0 | them |
| 1:18.1 | and I'll just say |
| 1:21.1 | it didn't go well |
| 1:24.2 | I'm not saying that's everybody's |
| 1:26.5 | experience |
| 1:27.2 | but I just thought it was interesting |
| 1:30.2 | after we had that conversation. They're not doing well with it? It didn't, yeah, it didn't go well. |
| 1:36.2 | Oh, no. Are they still on it though? One of the minutes. Yeah, what you are? No, and I'm here spilling their business on a podcast, so I'm worse. |
| 1:47.8 | No, no, no. I think it's interesting. These are the conversations that we need to have because we don't know the effects. No one's really studying that and coming with the full conversation because we don't have enough information. So these are personal experiences are some things that we should know, honestly. |
| 2:02.1 | Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. |
| 2:04.5 | And I'm sure, as we said, |
| 2:06.2 | we need to come back and do a whole episode on that. |
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