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Hey, this is Annie.

And Samantha.

And welcome to Stuff I've Never Told You, a production of IHart Radio.

And as we enter the final stretch of 2025, the holidays barreling down towards us,

we're bringing back some of our favorite episodes as classics for the year. And we have a lot. We both chose some, and the list is quite long. So get excited about some of those. I'm still toying with the idea of the

now that Terminus our fiction is over doing the playlist. But in the meantime, we thought we'd bring back this interview we did with Joe Piazza.

And this was when her book, The Sicilian Inheritance, had just come out.

And she was also talking about her podcast under the influence.

Unfortunately, we have not been able to meet up in person, nor have a cheese and wine book hangout thing that we discussed.

And it is a chavisty, but I have faith. Joe, she's around. She's always doing stuff. She's been busy.

She's busy. I see her name pop up all the time.

Yeah, and she also, we talk about tradwives in here, which is a big conversation that is still happening.

And I do think my mom asked me about this other day. She said, do you still like reading? You used to love reading.

And when it gets cold outside and it's rainy like it is now, I do like getting in a blanket and reading a good book. So if you haven't read

this yet, I would recommend. And if you have any book suggestions, please let us know. But in the

meantime, please enjoy this classic episode.

Hey, this is Annie. And Samantha. And welcome to Stefan Never Told You, production of IHeartRadio.

And today we are so thrilled to once again be joined by friend of the show, hopefully real life friend.

I can ever meet in person.

In real life.

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