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Sticky Notes: The Classical Music Podcast

Smetana: Ma Vlast

Sticky Notes: The Classical Music Podcast

Joshua Weilerstein

Arts, Performing Arts, Music

4.92.5K Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Nationalism, patriotism, cultural identity, a sense of home; these are concepts and ideas whose popularity have ebbed and flowed throughout history. Nationalism has been seen as a natural expression of cultural identity and pride, and it also has been at the core of virulent racism and xenophobia. Patriotism has been used as a cudgel by all sides of the political spectrum for good and evil, and a sense of home has led to cultural explosions and also to some of the bloodiest wars of all time. For Bedrich Smetana, these concepts were extremely multi-layered. He was a proud Bohemian nationalist for much of his life, but he also barely spoke Czech(German was the lingua franca among educated classes in Prague), and he was also disenchanted with the Prague musical establishment due to their cool reception of his Wagnerian/Lisztian style. He even left Prague for a time to work in Gothenburg Sweden, writing curtly to his parents: "Prague did not wish to acknowledge me, so I left it." But only 6 years later, he wrote again to a friend: "My home has rooted itself into my heart so much that only there do I find real contentment. It is to this that I will sacrifice myself." Stirred to patriotic and nationalistic sentiments, Smetana began studying the Czech language in earnest, and his second opera, The Bartered Bride, became the first Czech opera to enter the mainstream repertoire around Europe. It was a piece fully in Czech style, and even though Smetana battled to the end of his life with different members of the Prague musical establishment, he is still thought of today as the founder of the Czech national sound. This is even before we begin talking about the topic for today, Ma Vlast, which is commonly translated to My Fatherland, My Country, or My Homeland. Ma Vlast is a massive, nearly hour and a half long work that amalgamates Wagnerian and Listzian ideas of a tone poem along with nationalistic music that has stirred not only the Czech soul but the souls of people all around the world. As Semyon Bychkov, the great Russian conductor and current Music Director of the Czech Philharmonic says: "The core subject of this piece is home and the meaning of home; everything else is the gravy." Today on the show we'll begin by talking about Smetana's tragic experience of deafness, and then we'll go through each movement of his huge piece, talking about the msuic from the perspecitve of nationalism and also Wagnerian ideas of leitmotifs as well as orchestration and style. Join us!

Recording: Czech Philharmonic conducted by Rafael Kubelik

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Sticky Notes, the Classical Music Podcast. My name is Joshua

0:16.6

Weilerstein. I'm a conductor, and I'm the music director of the Orchestra National

0:19.8

De Lille, and the chief conductor of the All Borg Symphony.

0:22.9

This podcast is for anyone who loves classical music, works in the field, or is just getting

0:27.5

ready to dive into this amazing world of incredible music.

0:31.1

Before we get started, I want to thank my new Patreon sponsors, Susan, Peter, Jerry,

0:35.9

Nicholas, Gregory, Gail, and all of my other Patreon sponsors

0:40.2

for making Season 10 possible. If you'd like to support the show, please head over to patreon.com

0:45.1

slash sticky notes podcast. And if you are a fan of the show, please just take a moment to

0:49.3

give us a rating or review on Apple Podcasts. It is greatly appreciated. I have just returned back from two wonderful weeks with the All Borg Symphony, doing a program

1:00.4

of Mahler's Fourth Symphony in Pavel Haas' unfinished symphony with Mia Pershon as the soloist

1:05.7

in the last moment of the Mahler. And then we did a program of all this late romantic music, Brahms

1:10.5

4, Strauss' second horn concerto with

1:12.5

Stefan Dore, the solo horn of the Berlin Philharmonic, and two overtures by Zemlinsky and Ethel

1:18.8

Smyth.

1:19.8

It was a really fantastic two weeks.

1:22.3

And next week, I will be going to Stockholm to repeat the Mahler 4 and Pavel Haas program.

1:29.0

So I really can't wait for all of that.

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For today, I've got a really fun episode that was sponsored in my fundraiser last year

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by Michelle, who requested Smetna's Mavlast.

1:40.3

I really hope that you enjoy this episode. Nationalism, patriotism, cultural identity, a sense of home.

2:13.6

These are concepts and ideas whose popularity have ebbed and flowed throughout history.

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